Thank you, Gilles and Jeff. This makes a lot of sense now.

And, Jeff, I thnk the paper you mentioned is this
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=5184825&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D5184825
?

Thank you,
Slaiya

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Jeff Hammond <jeff.scie...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> So, you mean that it guarantees the value received after the bcast call is
>> consistent with value sent from root, but it doesn't have to wait till all
>> the ranks have received it?
>>
>> this is what i believe, double checking the standard might not hurt
>> though ...
>>
>
> No function has barrier semantics, except a barrier, although some
> functions have barrier semantics due to data-dependencies for non-zero
> counts (allgather, alltoall, allreduce).
>
> Reduce, Bcast, gather, and scatter should never have barrier semantics and
> should not synchronize more than the explicit data decencies require. The
> send-only ranks may return long before the recv-only ranks do, particularly
> when the messages go via an eager protocol.
>
> One can imagine barrier as a 1-byte allreduce, but there are more
> efficient implantations. Allreduce should never be faster than Bcast, as
> Gilles explained.
>
> There's a nice paper on self-consistent performance of MPI implementations
> that has lots of details.
>
> Jeff
>
>
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Saliya Ekanayake
Ph.D. Candidate | Research Assistant
School of Informatics and Computing | Digital Science Center
Indiana University, Bloomington

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