> On Mar 26, 2015, at 1:33 AM, Mark Santcroos <mark.santcr...@rutgers.edu> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Thanks for the follow-up.
> 
> It appears that you are ruling out that Munge is required because the system 
> runs TORQUE, but as far as I can see Munge is/can be used by both SLURM and 
> TORQUE.
> (http://docs.adaptivecomputing.com/torque/4-0-2/Content/topics/1-installConfig/serverConfig.htm#usingMUNGEAuth)

Not really ruling it out, Mark, but I didn’t consider it likely because then 
munge would indeed have to be on the compute nodes. Otherwise, the sister moms 
wouldn’t be able to authenticate back to the mom on the IO node.

To be clear, I’m not 100% sure what is using munge on the IO node. My real 
point was only that there are other subsystems that can use such security 
services, and that those subsystems might not extend into the compute node 
itself. Thus, the need to work in multiple security domains is going to exist 
into the future.

HTH
Ralph

> 
> If I misunderstood the drift, please ignore ;-)
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>> On 26 Mar 2015, at 5:38 , Gilles Gouaillardet 
>> <gilles.gouaillar...@iferc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2015/03/26 13:00, Ralph Castain wrote:
>>> Well, I did some digging around, and this PR looks like the right solution.
>> ok then :-)
>> 
>> following stuff is not directly related to ompi, but you might want to
>> comment on that anyway ...
>>> Second, the running of munge on the IO nodes is not only okay but required 
>>> by Luster.
>> this is the first time i hear that.
>> i googled "lustre munge" and could not find any relevant info about that.
>> is this a future feature of Lustre ?
>> as far as i am concerned, only Lustre MDS need a "unix" authentication
>> system
>> (ldap, nis, /etc/passwd, ...) and munge does not provide this service.
>>> Future systems are increasingly going to run the user’s job script 
>>> (including mpirun) on the IO nodes as this (a) frees up the login node for 
>>> interactive editing, and (b) avoids the jitter introduced by running the 
>>> job script on the same node as application procs, or wasting a compute node 
>>> to just run the job script.
>> that does make sense not to run the script on a compute node.
>> but once again i am surprised ... as far as i am concerned, lustre IO
>> nodes (MDS and/or OSS) do not mount the filesystem
>> (i mean you cannot access the filesystem as if you were on a lustre client).
>> of course, you can write your script so it does not require any access
>> to the lustre filesystem, but that sounds like a lot of pain
>> for a small benefit.
>> /* that is specific to Lustre. GPFS for example can access the
>> filesystem from an IO node */
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Gilles
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