On 28/09/12 10:50 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote:
> On Sep 28, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Sébastien Boisvert wrote:
> 
>> 1.5 us is very good. But I get 1.5 ms with shared queues (see above).
> 
> Oh, I mis-read (I blame it on jet-lag...).
> 
> Yes, that seems waaaay too high.
> 
> You didn't do a developer build, did you?  We add a bunch of extra debugging 
> in developer builds that adds a bunch of latency.  And you're not running 
> over-subscribed, right?
> 

I installed v1.6.2, not a developer build.

23 or 24 processes per node, 24 AMD Interlagos cores per node. So not 
oversubscribed.

>>> OTOH, that's pretty bad.  :-)
>>
>> I know, all my Ray processes are doing busy waiting, if MPI was event-driven,
>> I would call my software sleepy Ray when latency is high.
>>
>>> I'm not sure why it would be so bad -- are you hammering the virtual router 
>>> with small incoming messages?
>>
>> There are 24 AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6172 cores for 1 Mellanox 
>> Technologies MT26428 on each node. That may be the cause too.
> 
> That's a QDR HCA, right?  (i.e., I assume it's very recent)

Yes.

02:00.0 InfiniBand: Mellanox Technologies MT26428 [ConnectX VPI PCIe 2.0 5GT/s 
- IB QDR / 10GigE] (rev b0)


> 
> Try running some simple point-to-point benchmarks and see if you're getting 
> the same latency (i.e., don't run benchmarks in your app -- get a baseline 
> with some well-known benchmarks first).
> 
>>> You might need to do a little profiling to see where the bottlenecks are.
>>
>> Well, with the very valuable information you provided about log_num_mtt and 
>> log_mtts_per_seg for the Linux kernel module mlx4_core, I think this may be 
>> the root of our problem.
> 
> It is definitely a cause, but perhaps not the only cause.
> 
>> We get 20-30 us on 4096 processes on Cray XE6, so it is unlikely that the 
>> bottleneck is in our software.
> 
> Possibly not.  But every environment is different, and the same software can 
> perform differently in different environments.

I agree.

> 
>> Yes, I agree on this, non-portable code is not portable and all with 
>> unexpected behaviors.
> 
> Got it.
> 
>> Ah I see. By removing the checks in my silly patch, I can now dictate things 
>> to do to OMPI. Hehe.
> 
> :-)
> 

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