I apologize - I realized late last night that I had a typo in my recommended
command. It should read:
mpirun -mca plm rsh -mca plm_rsh_agent pbsdsh -mca ras ^tm --machinefile m1....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Also, if you know that #procs <= #cores on your nodes, you can greatly improve
performance by adding "--bind-to-core".
On Apr 3, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:
> And, before someone wonders, while Wien2k is a commercial code it is
> about 500 Eu for a lifetime licence so this is not the same as Vasp or
> Gaussian which cost $$$$$. And, I have no financial interest in the
> code, but like many others help make it better (semi gnu).
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Laurence Marks <l-ma...@northwestern.edu>
> wrote:
>> Thanks. I will test this tomorrow.
>>
>> Many people run Wien2k with openmpi as you say, I only became aware of
>> the issue of Wien2k (and perhaps other codes) leaving orphaned
>> processes still running a few days ago. I also know someone who wants
>> to run Wien2k on a system where both rsh and ssh are banned.
>> Personally, as I don't want to be banned from the supercomputers I use
>> I want to find a adequate patch for myself --- and then try and
>> persuade the developers to adopt it.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Ralph Castain <r...@open-mpi.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Reuti <re...@staff.uni-marburg.de> wrote:
>>>>> Am 03.04.2011 um 23:59 schrieb David Singleton:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/04/2011 12:56 AM, Ralph Castain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I still don't understand is why you are trying to do it this way.
>>>>>>> Why not just run
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> time mpirun -v -x LD_LIBRARY_PATH -x PATH -np 2 -machinefile .machineN
>>>>>>> /home/lma712/src/Virgin_10.1/lapw1Q_mpi lapw1Q_1.def
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> where machineN contains the names of the nodes where you want the MPI
>>>>>>> apps to execute? mpirun will only execute apps on those nodes, so this
>>>>>>> accomplishes the same thing as your script - only with a lot less pain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your script would just contain a sequence of these commands, each with
>>>>>>> its number of procs and machinefile as required.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I missed why this suggestion of forgetting about the ssh/pbsdsh
>>>>>> altogether
>>>>>> was not feasible? Just use mpirun (with its great tm support!) to
>>>>>> distribute
>>>>>> MPI jobs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wien2k has a two stage startup, e.g. for 16 slots:
>>>>>
>>>>> a) start 4 times `ssh` in the background to go to some of the granted
>>>>> nodes
>>>>> b) use there on each node `mpirun` to start processes on the remaining
>>>>> nodes, 3 for each call
>>>>>
>>>>> Problems:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) control `ssh` under Torque
>>>>> 2) provide a partially hostlist to `mpirun`, maybe by disabling the
>>>>> default tight integration
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Reuti
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1) The mpi tasks can be started on only one node (Reuti, "setenv
>>>> MPI_REMOTE 0" in parallel_options which was introduced for other
>>>> reasons in 9.3 and later releases). That seems to be safe and maybe
>>>> the only viable method with OMPI as pbsdsh appears to be unable to
>>>> launch mpi tasks correctly (or needs some environmental variables that
>>>> I don't know about).
>>>> 2) This is already done (Reuti, this is .machine0, .machine1 etc. If
>>>> you need information about setting up the Wien2k file under qsub in
>>>> general, contact me offline or look for Machines2W on the mailing list
>>>> which may be part of the next release, I'm not sure and I don't make
>>>> those decisions).
>>>>
>>>> However, there is another layer that Ruedi did not mention for this
>>>> code which is that some processes also need to be remotely launched to
>>>> ensure that the correct scratch directories are used (i.e. local
>>>> storage which is faster rather than nfs or similar). Maybe pbsdsh can
>>>> be used for this, I am still testing and I am not sure. It may be
>>>> enough to create a script with all important environmental variables
>>>> exported (as they may not all be in .bashrc or .cshrc) although there
>>>> might be issues making this fully portable. Since there are > 1000
>>>> licenses of Wien2k, it has to be able to cope with different OS's, and
>>>> not just OMPI.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Here is what I would do, based on my knowledge of OMPI's internals (and I
>>> wrote the launchers :-)):
>>>
>>> 1. do not use your script - you don't want all those PBS envars to confuse
>>> OMPI
>>>
>>> 2. mpirun -mca plm rsh -launch-agent pbsdsh -mca ras ^tm --machinefile
>>> m1....
>>>
>>> This cmd line tells mpirun to use the "rsh/ssh" launcher, but to substitute
>>> "pbsdsh" for "ssh". It also tells it to ignore the PBS_NODEFILE and just
>>> use the machinefile for the nodes to be used for that job.
>>>
>>> I can't swear this will work as I have never verified that pbsdsh and ssh
>>> have the same syntax, but I -think- that was true. If so, then this might
>>> do what you are attempting.
>>>
>>>
>>> I know people have run Wien2k with OMPI before - but I have never heard of
>>> the problems you are reporting.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> A simple example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> vayu1:~/MPI > qsub -lncpus=24,vmem=24gb,walltime=10:00 -wd -I
>>>>>> qsub: waiting for job 574900.vu-pbs to start
>>>>>> qsub: job 574900.vu-pbs ready
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [dbs900@v250 ~/MPI]$ wc -l $PBS_NODEFILE
>>>>>> 24
>>>>>> [dbs900@v250 ~/MPI]$ head -12 $PBS_NODEFILE > m1
>>>>>> [dbs900@v250 ~/MPI]$ tail -12 $PBS_NODEFILE > m2
>>>>>> [dbs900@v250 ~/MPI]$ mpirun --machinefile m1 ./a2a143 120000 30 & mpirun
>>>>>> --machinefile m2 ./pp143
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check how the processes are distributed ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> vayu1:~ > qps 574900.vu-pbs
>>>>>> Node 0: v250:
>>>>>> PID S RSS VSZ %MEM TIME %CPU COMMAND
>>>>>> 11420 S 2104 10396 0.0 00:00:00 0.0 -tcsh
>>>>>> 11421 S 620 10552 0.0 00:00:00 0.0 pbs_demux
>>>>>> 12471 S 2208 49324 0.0 00:00:00 0.9 /apps/openmpi/1.4.3/bin/mpirun
>>>>>> --machinefile m1 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 12472 S 2116 49312 0.0 00:00:00 0.0 /apps/openmpi/1.4.3/bin/mpirun
>>>>>> --machinefile m2 ./pp143
>>>>>> 12535 R 270160 565668 1.0 00:00:02 82.4 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 12536 R 270032 565536 1.0 00:00:02 81.4 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 12537 R 270012 565528 1.0 00:00:02 87.3 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 12538 R 269992 565532 1.0 00:00:02 93.3 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 12539 R 269980 565516 1.0 00:00:02 81.4 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 12540 R 270008 565516 1.0 00:00:02 86.3 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 12541 R 270008 565516 1.0 00:00:02 96.3 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 12542 R 272064 567568 1.0 00:00:02 91.3 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> Node 1: v251:
>>>>>> PID S RSS VSZ %MEM TIME %CPU COMMAND
>>>>>> 10367 S 1872 40648 0.0 00:00:00 0.0 orted -mca ess env -mca
>>>>>> orte_ess_jobid 1444413440 -mca orte_ess_vpid 1 -mca orte_ess_num_procs 2
>>>>>> --hnp-uri "1444413440.0;tcp://10.1.3.58:37339"
>>>>>> 10368 S 1868 40648 0.0 00:00:00 0.0 orted -mca ess env -mca
>>>>>> orte_ess_jobid 1444347904 -mca orte_ess_vpid 1 -mca orte_ess_num_procs 3
>>>>>> --hnp-uri "1444347904.0;tcp://10.1.3.58:39610"
>>>>>> 10372 R 271112 567556 1.0 00:00:04 74.5 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 10373 R 271036 567564 1.0 00:00:04 71.5 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 10374 R 271032 567560 1.0 00:00:04 66.5 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 10375 R 273112 569612 1.1 00:00:04 68.5 ./a2a143 120000 30
>>>>>> 10378 R 552280 840712 2.2 00:00:04 100 ./pp143
>>>>>> 10379 R 552280 840708 2.2 00:00:04 100 ./pp143
>>>>>> 10380 R 552328 841576 2.2 00:00:04 100 ./pp143
>>>>>> 10381 R 552788 841216 2.2 00:00:04 99.3 ./pp143
>>>>>> Node 2: v252:
>>>>>> PID S RSS VSZ %MEM TIME %CPU COMMAND
>>>>>> 10152 S 1908 40780 0.0 00:00:00 0.0 orted -mca ess env -mca
>>>>>> orte_ess_jobid 1444347904 -mca orte_ess_vpid 2 -mca orte_ess_num_procs 3
>>>>>> --hnp-uri "1444347904.0;tcp://10.1.3.58:39610"
>>>>>> 10156 R 552384 840200 2.2 00:00:07 99.3 ./pp143
>>>>>> 10157 R 551868 839692 2.2 00:00:06 99.3 ./pp143
>>>>>> 10158 R 551400 839184 2.2 00:00:07 100 ./pp143
>>>>>> 10159 R 551436 839184 2.2 00:00:06 98.3 ./pp143
>>>>>> 10160 R 551760 839692 2.2 00:00:07 100 ./pp143
>>>>>> 10161 R 551788 839824 2.2 00:00:07 97.3 ./pp143
>>>>>> 10162 R 552256 840332 2.2 00:00:07 100 ./pp143
>>>>>> 10163 R 552216 840340 2.2 00:00:07 99.3 ./pp143
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You would have to do something smarter to get correct process binding
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> Laurence Marks
>>>> Department of Materials Science and Engineering
>>>> MSE Rm 2036 Cook Hall
>>>> 2220 N Campus Drive
>>>> Northwestern University
>>>> Evanston, IL 60208, USA
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>>>> Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what
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>> Laurence Marks
>> Department of Materials Science and Engineering
>> MSE Rm 2036 Cook Hall
>> 2220 N Campus Drive
>> Northwestern University
>> Evanston, IL 60208, USA
>> Tel: (847) 491-3996 Fax: (847) 491-7820
>> email: L-marks at northwestern dot edu
>> Web: www.numis.northwestern.edu
>> Chair, Commission on Electron Crystallography of IUCR
>> www.numis.northwestern.edu/
>> Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what
>> nobody else has thought
>> Albert Szent-Gyorgi
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Laurence Marks
> Department of Materials Science and Engineering
> MSE Rm 2036 Cook Hall
> 2220 N Campus Drive
> Northwestern University
> Evanston, IL 60208, USA
> Tel: (847) 491-3996 Fax: (847) 491-7820
> email: L-marks at northwestern dot edu
> Web: www.numis.northwestern.edu
> Chair, Commission on Electron Crystallography of IUCR
> www.numis.northwestern.edu/
> Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what
> nobody else has thought
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