On Mar 5, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Joe Landman wrote:

Jeff Squyres wrote:
On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Gerry Creager wrote:
We've been playing with it in a coupled atmosphere-ocean model to allow
the two to synchronize and exchange data.  The models have differing
levels of physics complexity and the time step requirements are
significantly different.  To sync them up we have to know where the
timesteps are identical, stop the process, exchange data and continue.
We've been playing with barrier to help.

I'm not sure I understand -- "help" meaning what?
If you're exchanging data at the end of an iteration, then you effectively have a synchronization anyway -- no need for an extra barrier synchronization.

Hi Jeff and Gerry:

I think what Gerry means is that they have 2 distinct models running as different processes, and every now and then, the time steps of the models agree ... so both models register the same time to within some uncertainty or pre-defined accuracy. At that point, they exchange information. So it is not necessarily a synchronization at every time step, its likely at every Nth time step for one code, and every Mth for the other code. Of course this assumes fixed size time steps which might not be the case.

Regardless, at the point where the times are determined to be equal, the models need to exchange data. Which means if one got there sooner than the other, that one has to wait for the other. Continuing calculating without the data exchange would be, I am guessing, a waste of processor cycles as the models are coupled, and continuing without the coupling would be incorrect.


Ummm....not to put gasoline on the fire, but...if the data exchange is blocking, why do you need to call a barrier op first? Just use an appropriate blocking data exchange call (collective or whatever) and it will "barrier" anyway.




 Joe





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