Josh Hursey wrote:
On Apr 29, 2008, at 12:55 AM, Sharon Brunett wrote:

I'm finding that using ompi-checkpoint on an application which is very cpu bound takes a very very long time. For example, trying to checkpoint a 4 or 8 way Pallas MPI Benchmark application can take more than an hour. The problem is not where I'm dumping checkpoints (I've tried local and an nfs mount with plenty of space, and cpu intensive apps checkpoint quickly).

I'm using BLCR_VERSION=0.6.5 and openmpi-1.3a1r18241.

Is this condition common and if so, are there possibly mca paramters which could help?

It depends on how you configured Open MPI with checkpoint/restart. There are two modes of operation: No threads, and with a checkpoint thread. They are described a bit more in the Checkpoint/Restart Fault Tolerance User's Guide on the wiki:
   https://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/ompi/wiki/ProcessFT_CR

By default we compile without the checkpoint thread. The restriction he is that all processes must be in the MPI library in order to make progress on the global checkpoint. For CPU intensive applications this may cause quite a delay in the time to start, and subsequently finish, a checkpoint. I'm guessing that this is what you are seeing.

If you configure with the checkpoint thread (add '--enable-mpi-threads- --enable-ft-thread' to ./configure) then Open MPI will create a thread that runs with each application process. This thread is fairly light weight and will make sure that a checkpoint progresses even when the process is not in the Open MPI library.

Try enabling the checkpoint thread and see if that helps improve the checkpoint time.

Josh,
First...please pardon the blunder in my earlier mail. Comms bound apps are the ones taking a while to checkpoint, not cpu bound. In any case, I tried configuring with the above two configure options but still no luck on improving checkpointing times or gaining completion on larger mpi task runs being checkpointed.

It looks like the checkpointing is just hanging. For example, I can checkpoint a 2 way comms bound code (1 task on two nodes) ok. When I ask for a 4 way run on 2 nodes, 30 minutes after the ompi-checkpoint PID only see 1 ckpt directory with data in it!


/home/sharon/ompi_global_snapshot_25400.ckpt/0
-bash-2.05b$ ls -l *
opal_snapshot_0.ckpt:
total 0

opal_snapshot_1.ckpt:
total 0

opal_snapshot_2.ckpt:
total 0

opal_snapshot_3.ckpt:
total 1868
-rw------- 1 sharon shc-support 1907476 2008-04-29 10:49 ompi_blcr_context.1850
-rw-r--r--  1 sharon shc-support      33 2008-04-29 10:49 snapshot_meta.data
-bash-2.05b$ pwd


The file system getting the checkpoints is local. I've tried /scratch and others as well.

I can checkpoint some codes (like xhpl) just fine across 8 mpi tasks ( t nodes), dumping 254M total. Thus, the very long/stuck checkpointing seems rather application dependent.

Here's how I configured openmpi

./configure --prefix=/nfs/ds01/support/sharon/openmpi-1.3a1r18241 --enable-mpi-threads --enable-ft-thread --with-ft=cr --enable-shared --enable-mpi-threads=posix --enable-libgcj-multifile --enable-languages=c,c++,objc,java,f95,ada --enable-java-awt=gtk --with-mvapi=/usr/mellanox --with-blcr=/opt/blcr



Thanks for any further insights you may have.
Sharon

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