On Wednesday, September 18th, 2024 at 12:39, bd730c5053df9efb via Users 
<users@lists.libvirt.org> wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 17th, 2024 at 17:27, Laine Stump la...@redhat.com wrote:
> 
> > On 9/17/24 12:27 PM, bd730c5053df9efb via Users wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi! Thanks for the reply and I'm sorry if my question wasn't clear enough.
> > > 
> > > I have a network, let's say 192.168.0.0/24, and two servers 192.168.0.1
> > > and 192.168.0.2. On this same network I have a wokstation, lets call it
> > > 192.168.0.100 which is running libvirt using qemu for the emultation.
> > > This workstation has a network device called br0 which has the ip
> > > address 192.168.0.100 and when I try to create an isolated network which
> > > is also on the 192.168.0.0/24 range I get an error stating that this
> > > range is already in use on the host. I need to be able to recreate an
> > > absolutely isolated network in the 192.168.0.0/24 range to be able to
> > > copy the servers 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 in here and perform the
> > > tests I need.
> > > 
> > > I hope I've been able to clarify.
> > 
> > Yep! That was one of my guesses, but I didn't want to assume anything :-).
> > 
> > The most straightforward solution to what you're talking about requires
> > the libvirt network to be in a separate network namespace. This is an
> > idea I've thought about in the past, but haven't done anything for it,
> > and nobody else has either, so so it's unfortunately not supported by
> > libvirt (as always, patches welcome :-)
> > 
> > Although... if the tests you need to perform involve having your
> > workstation (192.168.0.100 in your example) interact with the servers at
> > 192.168.0.1 & .2, then you're going to have to disconnect your
> > workstation from the physical network for the duration of the test anyway.
> > 
> > So here's a solution if those are the parameters (and even if you just
> > need the two servers to communicate with each other and nothing else):
> > 
> > If it's just the two test servers and the workstation that need to be
> > able to interact during your test, and the workstation won't need to
> > directly contact any other machine on the 192.168.0.0/24 network, then
> > you could probably rig up a solution with a small consumer router - just
> > insert the router in between the workstation and the real
> > 192.168.0.0/24 network with the "internet" side towards that network and
> > the "local" side plugged into the workstation, with the router
> > configured to do NAT and have use a local-side subnet of, say,
> > 192.168.1.0/24, and get a new IP address for the workstation from that
> > subnet (either automatically with DHCP, or by manually setting it to,
> > e.g. 192.168.1.100/24. then create an isolated network similar to this:
> > 
> > https://www.libvirt.org/formatnetwork.html#isolated-network-config
> > 
> > but with the ip address set to 192.168.0.100. Now you can configure you
> > test servers to connect their interface to this isolated network.
> > 
> > With this setup, the workstation will still be able to get to the
> > internet (except for the real 192.168.0.0/24 subnet) via its
> > connection to the router, and also will be able to interact with the
> > test servers via the isolated network that you created.
> > 
> > When you're done with your tests, just shutdown the to test VMs (with
> > their own internal shutdown command, possibly followed by "virsh
> > destroy" if the qemu processes aren't automatically terminated by the
> > shutdown) then "virsh net-destroy" the isolated network (you can leave
> > it defined so that it's simple to do the test again later), and plug the
> > workstation directly into the real network again (updating its IP
> > address if necessary).
> > 
> > Does that make sense, or is it too much rambling?
> 
> 
> Hi Laine! Thank you very much for your answer, it does make perfect sense but 
> my use case is much simpler. The two servers are two samba 4 ad domain 
> controllers and I have to demote one of them remove it from the net and then 
> add another one with the same ip address as the demoted one. All the test is 
> between these two servers, the host workstation doesn't get involved in this 
> test and I can't change their ip addresses. I had considered created an 
> isolated network in the 192.168.1.0/24 address space and keep the manually 
> set address on the servers in the 192.168.0.0/24 address space but I'm not 
> quite sure that will work. I I needed to test a workstation I could add to 
> the test another guest workstation also in the 192.168.0.0/24 address space, 
> but it wont be the host.
> 
> Thanks again.
> Best regards,
> Dave.

Hi all!

As follow up to my own mail. I was able to test the procedure creating an 
isolated network in the 192.168.1.0/24 address space and placing in there the 
replica of the two samba ad dc servers with their ip addresses fixed in the 
192.168.0.0/24 address space and the servers where able to contact each other 
but where completely isolated from the host and the 192.168.0.0/24 physical 
network.

Best regards!
Dave.

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