On 10/20/14 09:54, jd1008 wrote:
>
> On 10/19/2014 04:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 10/20/14 03:06, jd1008 wrote:
>>> On 10/18/2014 11:42 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>> On 10/19/14 13:16, jd1008 wrote:
>>>>> If the OP did go through the steps you enumerate, why would s/he be so 
>>>>> surprised
>>>>> by the automatic updates ? :) :)   Very strange!!
>>>> The OP didn't do what you have suggested.
>>>>
>>>> The OP is using GNOME and that is the behavior of GNOME, even in F20.
>>>>    What I've told them to do is what is needed for GNOME.
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing strange other than the assumptions that you've made.
>>> Well, when I installed f20, I was NOT getting automatic updates.
>>> I had to manually enable it.
>>> So, I made no assumptions.
>> Yes you did.  You were making the assumption that the OP did something 
>> similar to what you may have done.  You looked it it from your point of 
>> view.  Which, incidentally, we now know was opposite of what the OP wanted 
>> to achieve.
> The op wanted to stop auto updates.

The OP wanted to stop the automatic download of updates withing GNOME.  This 
GNOME feature is *builtin* to GNOME and there is no need to install any other 
packages!

> I presented how to disable update daemon if it were installed,
> (which it seems it was, since it does the auto updates if it is
> enabled), And I presented how to delete it if the OP wanted to
> just put an end to it :)

What the heck are you talking about?  You never asked and the OP never said 
they had installed "yum-updatesd".  I have already told you that this package 
*IS NOT* installed by default!   You even just said it now "IF it were 
installed" and there was no indication from the OP that it was! 

Again.....  "yum-updatesd" is *NOT* responsible for automatic downloads of 
updates on a standard default install of GNOME!  It is a *BUILT IN FUNCTION* 
Period, end of story!

The OP disabled download by using dconf-editor.  I gave him information for F20 
as I forgot he is using F21.  The location of the setting has changed. 

I gave him this link.... 

http://ruturaj.net/fedora-20-gnome-3-10-disable-auto-download-of-updates/

and he came back with the indication that the setting has changed in the GNOME 
being released in F21.

> What was your assumption the OP wanted to do besides stop auto updates?

I made no assumptions but answered the question based on the information he 
gave. 

>
>>
>> The automatic downloading of updates using GNOME on F20 works just fine.  
>> During this thread, I tested it since I wanted to see how long it took 
>> before the downloads happened.  It varies due to timers.  But it works.  If 
>> it didn't work for you, then you should have filed a bugzilla.
> Sorry Ed, I never said the updates daemon did not / does not work.
> I was only pointing out to the OP a couple of ways to stop the auto
> updates via the updates daemon.

WHAT?  on "Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:06:34 -0600" you wrote....

"Well, when I installed f20, I was NOT getting automatic updates.
I had to manually enable it."


>
>>
>>
>> The point is "yum erase" won't erase bash.  It isn't "dangerous" as you make 
>> it out to be.
> It was your suggestion to use yum erase.
> I was merely pointing out it's consequences.

There are *no* consequences unless you do something stupid.  Just like putting 
--force in an rpm command in willy nilly fashion.




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