On Mon, 2014-04-28 at 14:49 +1000, Roger wrote:
> I have just Fedup'd Fedora 19 to F20 on a Dell 1520 laptop and it
> works well, took about 4 hours to complete still has the same php
> error message about /usr/lib64/pdo-mysql.so but all works well.
>  
> There seems to be no way to shut own the system other than going to a 
> terminal and entering shutdown as root.
> I vaguely remember other Fedora versions had the same thing and we had
> to install some app to provide the shut down menu.

On my freshly installed Fedora 20, with that Gnome 3 shite, I had an
option to shutdown, but none to log out.  A bit of googling suggested a
solution to give me a log out option in my menu, but it did nothing (you
could click on the, now available, logout option, but nothing ever
happened in response).  That was the final straw, so I installed the
mate desktop, and use that instead of Gnome.  Now I have a desktop that
works normally.

You haven't said which desktop you're using with Fedora 20.  You want to
give the list that information for someone to be able to give you the
best advice.

Doing an update over the top may carry over previous problems, whereas a
fresh install *may* have gotten rid of your library fault.  I have a 32
bit install, and don't knowingly use mysql, so I can't say whether a
fresh install Fedora 20 would definitely make any difference.

I haven't done update-installs for many years, but when I did, they were
nothing but a problem.  One of the advantages of a fresh install is that
you don't have to put up with prior faults continuing over to the new
release.  Nor debugging cases of things that didn't update.  Nor deal
with heavy and lengthy pre/post-install dependency computing.



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