On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Rick Stevens <ri...@alldigital.com> wrote:

> On 03/06/2013 09:35 AM, Tom Horsley issued this missive:
>
>  On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:15:36 -0800
>> Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>>
>>         * I click Shut Down, using KDE
>>>
>>
>> I've never been able to figure out what the heck
>> the different GUI versions of shutdown actually do, they
>> often seem broken for some reason. Try typing this
>> in a terminal instead:
>>
>> sudo shutdown -h now
>>
>> If that doesn't shutdown, then there is a real
>> shutdown problem, otherwise there is a KDE
>> problem.
>>
>
> The shutdown app in the various desktops should perform clean logouts
> from the desktop first (e.g. save current layout, save current session,
> etc.), then actually run the shutdown command. The one I have in XFCE
> does the job fairly well.
>
> On one machine, I do occasionally have issues with the window manager
> not starting properly on a reboot but I suspect that's another issue.
> That machine has been upgraded from F14 through F17 and there's still
> cruft left over from those older OS versions. Methinks it sometimes gets
> confused...much like its owner. :-)
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With f18, my system sometimes gets hung on a dracut command prompt; I
didn't know what to do at first, but now I just type "poweroff" or "reboot"
and the system is fine.

Hope this helps
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