On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Joe Zeff <j...@zeff.us> wrote:

> On 07/03/2012 06:58 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
>
>>
>> NetworkManager generally closes the firewall down, brings the network
>> up (and if it's a wireless, that includes authenticating, et al) and
>> then starts the firewall.
>>
>
> That's strange.  Shouldn't the firewall be up before networking?
>

YES!!
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