Am 10.04.2012 01:53, schrieb Mark LaPierre:
> On 04/09/2012 05:05 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
>> On F16/systemd-37-17.fc16.i686, when I'm working in runlevel 3 on
>> consoles and then use "telinit 5" or "systemctl isolate
>> runlevel5.target", then all my console shells and programs there
>> running are killed. As well when I'm working in runlevel 5 on
>> consoles and then switch to runlevel 3 - all console shells are
>> killed too.
>>
>> Is there any solution how fix this systemd crap so that will work as
>> in F14- (i.e. logged consoles will remain running) ?
> 
> Why are you using telinit?  

that was not the question
the question was "why is it broken"

> There is no need to do that just to swap from X to a terminal
> Just leave your X session running and swap to a terminal with 
> [Ctrl][Alt][F2-6]
> Swap back to your X session with [Ctrl][Alt][F7]

sometimes you X sesion is frozen completly and ignores STRG+ALT+BACKSPACE
it worked for many years do "init 3; init 5" and TTY2-TTY6 was untouched

the question of the OP was why this is broken now and not
what he could do instead

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