On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:29:19 +0100, RC (Ralf) wrote:

> >> Wasn't this kind of bugs supposed to be caught by AutoQA?
> > It caught it,
> >
> >    
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-1132/alsa-utils-1.0.25-7.fc16
> >
> > but obviously only after the automatic request to push it to stable,
> > and it does not stop such updates automatically yet.
> Great, its not even able to catch obvious cases - Fedora is a great 
> experience, isn't it?

Please refrain from posting similar comments. Negativity doesn't improve
productivity.

Sure, it's a disappointing and embarrassing case once again and confuses
users. The package maintainer has ignored the early tester feedback in
bodhi even. Voting in bodhi should not turn into a fight between package
update submitter and testers.
The packager ought to have added all alsa-* packages to the same ticket,
especially since he's the primary person to be aware of his explicit
versioned dependency on alsa-lib. For the ordinary tester it's much harder
to detect this problem, as usually a tester doesn't examine "rpm -qR
alsa-utils" for a minor update that installed fine with updates-testing
enabled.
It's really a scenario where the Fedora Updates System needs to prevent a
packager from pushing something. That has not been implemented yet,
however. And more will need to be implemented to get it right. For
example, multiarch/multilib package updates need to be able to pull in
additional packages (from Fedora "Everything" repo) for newly added
multiarch deps [i.e. a needed i686 pkg not found in the x86_64 "fedora"
repo would need to be made available in the "updates" repo, similar to
what the old Extras pushscripts tried to do].
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