2011/8/24 Marko Vojinovic <vvma...@gmail.com> > On Wednesday 24 August 2011 17:17:15 Manuel Escudero wrote: > > 2011/8/24 Timothy Murphy <gayle...@eircom.net> > > > Manuel Escudero wrote: > > > >> I'm puzzled by this thread. > > > >> It doesn't seem to me to be too difficult to set up an OpenVPN > server, > > > >> following the instructions in /usr/share/openvpn/easy-rsa/2.0/ . > > > >> > > > >> Or are you all trying to do something else? > > Sorry to drop in on this thread, but it seems that there is some > misunderstanding here... ;-) > > Yes, apparently Manuel is trying to do something else, which has nothing to > do > with creating a VPN on Fedora. He just expressed himself poorly. Read > below. > > > > > The idea was to get an easy solution to mount a personal VPN > > > > in Linux using an external "pre-arranged" solution such as those > > > > you might use on windows or mac, (HotspotShield/TunnelBear). > > As far as I looked at the HotspotShield and TunnelBear websites, they > basically say: > > <quote> > Q) What is TunnelBear? > A) TunnelBear is the world’s easiest to use consumer VPN software that > securely “tunnels” your internet connection to locations around the world. > > Q) How does TunnelBear work? > A) TunnelBear creates a secure, encrypted connection between your computer > and > a server in the host country you want to connect to. This both protects > your > privacy allows you to simulate the internet experience from another > country. > > Hotspot Shield: > * Secure your web session, data, online shopping, and personal > information > online with HTTPS encryption. > * Protect yourself from identity theft online. > * Hide your IP address for your privacy online. > * Access all content privately without censorship; bypass firewalls. > * Protect yourself from snoopers at Wi-Fi hotspots, hotels, airports, > corporate offices. > </quote> > > So it seems to me that TunnelBear and HotspotShield are commercial > *proxy* *servers*, which clients use by connecting via the VPN. > > > > As far as I can see, Hotspot Shield and Tunnel Bear > > > are both running VPN servers, on a free/commercial basis, > > > and if you subscribe to them you can run a VPN client > > > which communicates with or through them. > > > Or have I got that wrong? > > You got it right. You get logged on their VPN, and they "guarantee" to > clients > anonymous access to the Internet, using their server as a proxy. The VPN is > used in order to provide encrypted connection between the server and the > client, and in addition to provide A&A via pay-for certificates. > > > > > See, Win/Mac users don't mount their own VPN servers when they > > > > wanna use VPN because of those apps, I found a solution like > > > > that but for Linux, and that was what I was looking for in the first > > > > place. > > This part is a bit confusing. It seems that Manuel doesn't make a > distinction > between a VPN and these commercial proxy services. Win/Mac users that he > speaks about do not create a VPN, they are just clients to the commercial > VPN. > So they do not need to set up any VPN server or something similar. > > AFAIK, if you sign up for this service and get a certificate, you should > not > need any special software to connect to the HS/TB VPN-s. NetworkManager > should > be able to connect to them automatically, if configured to use the > appropriate > certificates. So on Linux at least, no additional software should be > necessary, > unless they are doing something weird and incompatible. As for Windows and > Mac, I don't know, but if anything needs to be installed, it is a VPN > client > of some kind. Not the server. > > > The thing is, in Win & Mac, users just Download an app such as TunnelBear > > for example > > and install it with a "Next>Next>Next" tool, then just click ENABLE and > > they're "magically" > > browsing through VPN connection... > > The "Next>Next>Next" tool just installs VPN client software on Win/Mac, and > sets it up automatically for use with HS/TB networks. > > > They don't need to setup a private > > server, then parse the > > keys and the certificates, then install all the things, deal with config > > files and so on... > > These are steps you need to do when you want to create *your* *own* VPN, > not > to use somebody else's network. Apples and oranges. :-) > > > I commited myself to the simple duty of finding something similar but for > > linux and > > Hostizzle (with a little help from other tools) seem to be the closest > > alternative > > to such software. > > Hostizzle is just another commercial proxy, in line with Hotspot Shield and > TunnelBear. It's not a software, it's an online service. It uses VPN (in > particular OpenVPN implementation) in order to provide its service. > > > More clear? :) > > The Hostizzle FAQ is very informative regarding what this is all about: > > http://hostizzle.com/faq/ > > In a nutshell, you sign up to use their VPN for all your internet traffic, > using > their server as a gateway. This avoids various firewalls, insecure > connections, > blocked ports, etc., at the expense of using their gateway. > > The VPN itself has nothing to do with this. It is just a backend technology > that provides you a convenient way to use their server as a gateway to the > Internet. > > All in all, the title of this thread is completely misleading. You (the OP) > don't actually want to set up your own VPN, you want to use this kind od > public proxy service, and need to set up a VPN client because this is the > way > to communicate with that public proxy. Please don't mix these two things. > :-) > > VPN stands for a "Virtual Private Network", and basically represents an > emulation of a bunch of (virtual) ethernet cards and appropriate (virtual) > cables and switches, in order to create a (virtual) LAN over a physically > distributed set of hosts. This has absolutely nothing to do with the > "public > proxy" service like Hostizzle, regardless of the fact that that VPN is used > as > a backend means of communication between Hostizzle and yourself. > > I hope this clears up a few things for everybody, especially for the OP. > ;-) > > HTH, :-) > Marko > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >
Yep, what marko just said is most accurate about the technical aspect of the whole thing... in one simple sentence: HSS, TunnelBear Hostizzle, "and friends" are just services where someone mounts a VPN and then simply share with the people some ways to access it, via free or paid OpenVPN certificate packs wich contain a "ovpn" file to use in the configuration via your native networking client (such as networkmanager)... Win/Mac solutions are "a little more packed"; In linux it requires some more "setup steps" to work, but esentially it's the same. So, yep I wasn't talking about CREATING my own VPN but finding a service that let me connect to a "pre-mounted" VPN as I perfectly said in the first message I sent, (and nobody answered that), so I shared the solution I found for the actual question. C'ya! :) -- Manuel Escudero Linux User #509052 Twitter: @Jmlevick <http://twitter.com/Jmlevick> Blogger: Blog Xenode <http://xenodesystems.blogspot.com/> PGP/GnuPG: E2F5 12FA E1C3 FA58 CF15 8481 B77B 00CA C1E1 0FA7 Xenode Systems - xenodesystems.com <http://www.xenodesystems.com/> - "Conéctate a Tu Mundo"
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