suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Sent: Aug 18, 2010 1:31 PM
>To: James Mckenzie <jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net>, Community support for Fedora 
>users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org>
>Subject: Re: Somewhat OT - can underpowered power supplies damage a system?
>
>On 18 August 2010 09:08, James Mckenzie <jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Maybe a brand name's power supply would have not shorted out, but then the 
>> mobo, drives and everything else
>>would have received a 6000 volt shock.  And yes, the UPS was brand name 
>>(highly rated BTW) but the short duration
>>was so short that the system did not shut down.
>>
>
>I think you are concluding incorrectly. A well made PSU ideally would
>have blown the fuse, and saved both your PSU and your hardware. You
>would only need to replace the PSU fuse to get back up and running. At
>least that is my understanding.
>
What I'm describing is a Primary (6000/7200/13800) to Secondary (220) 
transformer short.  This means that the 220 lines for a short duration was 
carrying the primary voltage.  Yes, the fuse should have blown, but in my case 
the fuse blew such velocity, the wire was splattered on the glass casing.  The 
internal transformer shorted out due to the amount of current carried for that 
moment.  Replacing the fuse resulted in another splatter and what looked like 
an arc over.  In most countries there are load limiters placed on the secondary 
side that prevent primary voltage from reaching your home (ever wonder what 
those things on the power pole were.)  Where I was living at the time did not 
have these and a surge on the primary side caused the short.  Was interesting 
to see a ground mounted transformer to this.  This can also happen to an oil 
cooled transformer if it overheats and the coolant is released (usually, the 
secondary side is also disconnected when this happens.)

However, a really good UPS/PSU combination with an EXCELLENT ground will drain 
off the overvoltage and the PSU will never see the overvoltage.  PSU's with 
blockers will also capture any overvoltage and drain it through the earth 
ground.

This is why data centers use different UPS configurations than you have at home 
and industrial standards require less than .5 ohm (in some cases way less) to 
earth ground.  There is an entire industry build around this.  Most homes have 
'open' grounds and the people in them are not aware.  I've got to fix the 
ground in the house I live in as the power strip I use is compaining of one.

James McKenzie

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>Suvayu
>
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