On Thu, 2026-02-26 at 08:04 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> I'm getting a message from the Fedora Mailing list specifying
> that a number of bounce messages have been received from my email
> address. Here is a sample bounce message:
The wording of that says that your service isn't accepting some mail,
rejecting them, "bouncing" them back to the list. But without seeing
some of the bounced messages (in full), it's hard to tell what it
doesn't like about them.
We can see it doesn't like something about Patrick's message, but not
what it objects to.
For what it's worth, "bouncing" is usually a bad idea. It's supposed
to be done during the intake attempt, aborting the transfer from the
sending mail server. That sending mail server can then act on it
appropriately. Unfortunately, it's often done after the message has
actually being accepted, and that is completely wrong...
Working bounce technique:
1. Someone attempts to mail you
2. The receiving server refuses to accept delivery
3. The sending server gives up trying and notifies the sending person
that its failed (probably with some info about why)
4. The sender, if genuine, will see that error message while they're in
the middle of trying to send their post, can try to fix up whatever
problem there was with their mail, and try again, or contact you in
some other way.
Wrong method:
1. Someone attempts to mail you
2. The receiving server accepts it
3. The sender thinks you've accepted it, and is none-the-wiser if not
true.
4. The receiving server forwards the mail to a FROM address in the
mail, which could be faked.
5. The FROMÂ address might be the actual sender, but may not see your
stuffed-up bounce message due to their own anti-spam handling
6. Some innocent third party who's address they fraudulently used as
their FROM address receives the spam that you got.
I wonder if your problem is down to some of the messages with TO and CC
addresses, and your service is not happy about some of the addresses.
If you could figure out who, you can try adding their address to one
that gmail accepts, like Samuel's link outlined:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/16457426
Probably start with addresses you're directly interacting with. But
make sure the fedora mailing list is in there somewhere (e.g. in the
contacts, or filters).
However, it's also likely that some of the problem messages may be the
odd few spams that do get through the list.
In my opinion, Gmail is not that great at spam handling. It has some
cockeyed ideas about doing it.
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uname -rsvp
Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64
(yes, this is the output from uname for this PC when I posted)
Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted.
I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.
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