> On 3 Nov 2025, at 21:19, Stephen Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2025 at 8:53 AM Neal Becker <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> I ran the usual dnf update today, but this time it brought problems.  I 
>>> rebooted (since it had some big updates to kde), but on reboot the 
>>> graphical mode showed the Fedora logo and the spinner, but then just froze. 
>>>  I was able to get to a tty.  At this point I'm just going to run the F43 
>>> update which I hope will restore it.  This is the first time I've seen an 
>>> update cause such an issue.  I tried a quick look at journalctl in tty 
>>> mode, but didn't see anything interesting.
>>> 
>> Update to F43 worked and graphical mode is working again.  I had put off the 
>> update because I need xpra > 6, which is currently in updates-testing.  I 
>> went ahead with the F43 update, which downgraded xpra, and then I removed 
>> xpra* and installed it from updates-testing. 
> Hi Neal, I've just posted another thread where I'm reporting the same issue 
> you have after I updated yesterday which also installed kernel 6.17.5, but 
> using nvidia drivers I checked journalctl for nvidia messages and found a 
> message that the nvidia module failed to load and it was falling back to 
> nouveau. I don't understand what the issue is because booting into kernel 
> 6.17.4, which was working, also gets the same issue. Under 6.17.4 I was able 
> to issue ctrl+alt+F2 to get a console to login with where is issued startx 
> which successfully loaded a Gnome desktop (I normally use KDE), hence the 
> journalctl results. I'm going to try an akmods build of the nvidia driver 
> again hoping it is that the module hasn't built properly rather than the 
> module has lost its Secure Boot signature.
> 
> The journalctl nvidia message was:
> 
> Nov 04 07:17:20 fedora systemd[1]: nvidia-fallback.service - Fallback to 
> nouveau as nvidia did not load was skipped because of an unmet condition 
> check (ConditionPathExists=!/sys/module/nvidia)

That means that the build of the akmods-nvidia failed or did not happen.

Try `sudo akmods --force --all` to make sure the nvidia drivers are build for 
all kernels.

Barry

> 
> Without knowing exactly what the message means it looks to me like maybe a 
> KDE module has been changed by mistake to verify that path doesn't exist 
> rather than check that the path does exist (I would expect it to exist).
> 
> regards,
> 
> 
> 
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