Tim: >> In the end I used the server install, it used a different method of >> booting up (I don't recall the details, just that it's not the same). >> Then installed a desktop, post-install. I'll probably have to do the >> same thing when I get around to updating it soon.
Michael Hennebry: > What does "installed a desktop, post-install" mean? The server installation is command line interface (CLI) only, no Graphical User Interface (GUI). It's often used as a box that sits somewhere, untouched by human hands, everything done remotely. It's an almost bare-bones install, though it includes various servers that some might want, and you can add anything else that's available to install to it. One thing it includes is cockpit, that allows you to browse to that PC from another computer's web browser and remotely configure things (you can even do it on the same PC). e.g. http://127.0.0.1:9090 Gnome, KDE, etc., are Graphical User Interfaces, providing a metaphorical desktop interface (files, folders, windows). So, after I installed the server install to the computer. I logged in and (as root) did the following (one by one) via the command line: dnf update dnf groupinstall MATE Desktop That gave me a desktop (MATE), you can choose whichever desktop you prefer. There's a variety to choose from, and there's a "group" that handles each of them (the basics plus some ancillary things they include). And groups for other things, too (such as games). If you do "dnf grouplist" you can see what's available to you. For groupnames with blank spaces in them, you may have to quote the whole name (I can't remember if it intelligently handles it, or you have to quote it). But as I recall, my post-install log that I'm copying from (here) was a log of my actual commands. Then... dnf install evolution dnf remove hexchat dnf install libreoffice dnf install gvim dnf install mpv dnf install vlc dnf install mkvtoolnix dnf install autofs I installed Evolution mail, as out of all the various ones I've tried it's the least annoying. Yes, I know that's a dreadful way to choose something. I removed an IRC client that I do not use (hexchat). I installed LibreOffice, gvim, mpv and vlc (programs I use). I can't remember what I used mkvtoolnix for at the moment. I installed autofs. It's an automounting handler, so if I do something like "cd /net/rocky/var/www/" in the command line, or enter that as a path I want to go to in a file browser window, it will automount the NFS share "/var/www" exported from the server "rocky" in /net. It'll also auto dismount it later on. I find it much less painful that having NFS mounts in /etc/fstab as they can cause bunfights as boot, reboot, and shutdown, when things aren't as available as it wants at the time. I also did: dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-40.noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-40.noarch.rpm dnf swap ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing Which was to handle getting mkv files playable in mpv. That's my entire post-install process on installing a system. It's relatively quick and painless. Far less painful than sitting watching an existing box grind its gears working out what packages it already has, what packages to download for an upgrade, preparing an upgrade list, it installing them one by one. Then the fun and games over the following weeks of hunting down incompatibilities between your previous installation and the next one. I know some people don't experience that, but this list is replete with people asking for help to solve a problem that is caused by that. In my case the PC is a very basic client. I only save local files on it that I'm working on at the time. My archive of things I want to keep is on my server (another PC). My mail is done via IMAP (mail stored on the server, not in the client). About the only thing I'd like to transition over from one install to another are my web browser bookmarks, and I've had varying levels of failure with that over the years. A big problem being that Firefox only wants to give me an easy method of importing bookmarks from another browser (e.g. if I had Chrome installed), not the prior installation of Firefox. Of course if you don't use any of the programs I've mentioned, don't bother with those extra installs. Just a groupinstall of a desktop is enough to get you a working computer. And you can use its package handler to install anything else you want. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 (yes, this is the output from uname for this PC when I posted) Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. 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