*From:* Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallag...@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Wednesday, 19 March 2025 at 10:20 UTC+11

*To:* users@lists.fedoraproject.org

*Subject:* RE: Tracer Messages


On Wed, 2025-03-19 at 09:36 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 18/3/25 09:20, Will McDonald wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 at 21:54, Stephen Morris
<steve.morris...@gmail.com> wrote:

         Having run tracer after a system update how do I determine
     what it is referring to with the following messages:

     You should restart:
     * These applications manually:
          DiscoverNotifier
          Isolated Web Co
          Privileged Cont
          RDD Process
          Socket Process
          Utility Process
          Web Content
          WebExtensions


Does:

# tracer --helpers

... make things clearer? Or, for example

# tracer -s 'Privileged Cont'

Always check the --help for a command and/or its man page.
Issuing tracer -s 'Utility Process' now tells me that application
Utility Process is not running, so how do I determine what it was?


If it's not running, why does it matter? (almost certainly it's a
worker process under Firefox)

Also having just done an update now tracer tells me that goa-daemon and
plasmashell should be manually restarted. Tracer -s goa-daemon tells me
it is package gnome-online-accounts, and from its name I'm assuming it
can be restarted via systemctl, but as I'm using KDE I can potentially
ignore the restart suggestion, would that be correct?
No, because you may be running some Gnome (or GTK) app under KDE, which
is why tracer detected goa-daemon. However the man page for goa-daemon
says that it starts automatically on demand, so there's no harm in just
killing it, e.g., with pkill.

With the suggestion to manually restart plasmashell how do I do that
without shutting the system down or is the KDE environment not running
under Plasmashell?
I have a tiny script for that, thanks to Rex Dieter:

    $ cat bin/replasma
    #!/bin/sh
# KDE list 06/01/2019 Rex Dieter<rdie...@gmail.com> systemctl restart --user plasma-plasmashell
    $
poc

Thankyou for that script, but I've seen instructions for switching between DM's that specify to disable the existing DM before enabling the new DM, which when you do that the disabling of the existing DM displays a black screen that it never comes back from to be able to enable the new DM, hence would this restart do the same thing, or do you need to use ctrl-alt-F2 to switch to a command line interface, login and issue the restart from there, and then when you logout of that interface or use ctrl-alt-F1 the gui your switching to is the restarted gui?

regards,
Steve


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