> On 1 Mar 2025, at 13:57, Patrick Dupre via users 
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> On 1 Mar 2025, at 13:42, Patrick Dupre <pdu...@gmx.com> wrote:
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> Does this help or do it need to run loginctl when I cannot login ?
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> Login as root and run loginctl. What I suggst you do is look for differences.
> I not sure what to look for myself.
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> The ans is teh same
> SESSION  UID USER   SEAT  TTY  STATE  IDLE SINCE       
>       5 1000 pdupre seat0 tty3 online yes  5h 48min ago
>       6 1000 pdupre seat0 tty4 active no   -           
> 2 sessions listed.
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I would run a controlled experiment, starting from a reboot.
Have root logged in on a console, avoid sudo from your user as that
will complicate what you see in loginctl.

Now, step by step, reproduce the problem and get loginctl output at each step, 
starting with before you first login as your user.

Barry


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