On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:12:46 -0500
"Todd Zullinger" <t...@pobox.com> wrote:

> Andras Simon wrote:
> > Le mar. 19 nov. 2024, 16:16, Todd Zullinger <t...@pobox.com> a écrit :
> >  
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> ¹ I'm sure many people swear by pip, but I think it's barely
> >>   better than running `curl ... | bash` to install things,
> >>   which I consider to be a bad practice.  
> >
> > I agree, but is there a better way when something is not
> > packaged for Fedora (other than packaging it, and all its
> > dependencies for Fedora)?  
> 
> Short of packaging things, running it in a container is a
> mild improvement.  It's still a hideous thing to do and if
> you're going to run the software more than once or twice,
> packaging it properly is worth the effort.  But for a quick
> one-off, I could stomach running pip inside a container.
> 
> My bias comes from looking at things as a sysadmin rather
> than a developer.  So I place more importance on having a
> solid, auditable, reproducible system than on getting
> library X, Y, and Z installed quickly so I can prototype
> some new feature for a product manager.
> 

I am a retired Sysadmin who fully understands all the frustrations brought 
about by the SW installation without real control. Although only for my system, 
I regularly build a SW package (RPM) for SW, which is not in distribution. 
Which is actually quite easy. So I always have a clean system and can be very 
easy to update or delete. However, this is less and less necessary as more SW 
is available. 

BR

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