On 10/12/24 5:05 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 10/12/24 3:16 PM, home user via users wrote:
On 10/12/24 3:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
[snip]
I might be treading on old ground here, but the above output is showing that 
you have nouveau blacklisted so it will not start. If you are booting to a 
console because your nvidia drivers aren't working yet allowing nouveau to be 
used may get you to a graphic login. To remove the multiple occurrences of 
rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau, modprobe.blacklist=nouveau you may want to remove 
them from the kernel line in /etc/default/grub and rebooting.
If that gets you a graphic interface, to get the nvidia drivers working via 
akmods you may have to redo the uefi signing signing processes if you are 
booting via uefi. I had to do that resigning when I upgraded from F39 to F40.
I don't recall how to determine whether this workstation boots bois or uefi or 
something else.  I don't recall hwo to determine this. It;s 11 years old; I'm 
thinking it's bios.

Samuel later says to leave blacklist part in the BOOT_IMAGE line.

I'll come back to the digital signing later.
If it's BIOS, then you don't need that.  But even if you do have UEFI, you must 
have secure boot turned off because the modules are loading, so there's no 
problem there.

If you have UEFI, then there will be a line from running "mount" that looks 
like this:
/dev/nvme0n1p1 on /boot/efi type vfat ...
(different drive of course, but most likely p1 anyway)

-bash.4[~]: mount | grep p1
-bash.5[~]:
grep for "efi" would have been better.  The p1 is not guaranteed.  But I do 
wonder what you do have on partition 1 that it's not mounted.  Do you have windows on 
this computer as well?
-bash.1[~]: mount | grep efi
-bash.2[~]:

Yes, this is a dual-boot workstation.  The other operating system is windows-7.  That's 
been key to this thread.  I've using windows-7 for the e-mailing and most other things.  
To try things list members suggest or get information list members request, I switch to 
Fedora, run what I gotta run and redirect output to a text file, and then switch back to 
windows-7.  The windows-7 has the "ext2explore" that can copy the output file 
to the windows-7 storage, which I can then paste/attach into e-mail.

For years, I've been seeing lines like these during boot:

-bash.5[~]: journalctl -b | grep taint
Oct 12 12:31:47 coyote kernel: nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel.
Oct 12 12:31:47 coyote kernel: nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
Oct 12 12:31:47 coyote kernel: Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
Oct 12 12:31:47 coyote kernel: nvidia: module verification failed: signature 
and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
Oct 12 12:31:47 coyote kernel: nvidia: module license taints kernel.
Oct 12 12:31:51 coyote kernel: nvidia_uvm: module uses symbols 
nvUvmInterfaceDisableAccessCntr from proprietary module nvidia, inheriting 
taint.
-bash.6[~]:

But I'm not aware of any problems relating to this.  Is this somehow related to the 
absence of "digital signing"?

I do not know what this "digital signing" is or how to do it, but I gather from 
what Samuel says, I don't need it.
The taint thing has always been there.  It means that the kernel developers are 
not interested in any issues you have because you've tainted the kernel with an 
out-of-tree (and proprietary!) driver.

This is completely separate from digital signing which is only required for 
secure boot.

ok.  Thank-you.

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