On 11/14/2023 01:40 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
The problem appears to be wayland, I thought I had tested under
x11 and wayland, but gnome was sneaking a wayland session
into existence behind my back. When I really managed to start
in x11 for sure, emacs no longer seemed wacky.

Two suggestions: first, after a clean boot, switch to a text console, log in there and see what happens. Second, install a DE that doesn't use Wayland (I like Xfce, but there are many others.) and start a session in that to make sure that Wayland can't be involved and again, see what happens. If the bug manifests in either one, you know that the bug is in emacs not your GUI.
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