On 7/12/22 16:27, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 12/6/22 14:03, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 6/12/22 11:02, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 12/5/22 14:19, Stephen Morris wrote:
I tried replacing pipewire with pulseaudio by issuing "sudo dnf swap pipewire pulseaudio" but that failed because package "mutter" requires pipewire, I have no idea what that is, and mutter can't be uninstalled because it wants to uninstall "gnome-shell" which is not allowed.

"mutter" is basically the rendering engine for "gnome-shell" which explains the dependencies.  pulseaudio is deprecated now, pipewire is what should be used going forward.
Pipewire doesn't work. It was videos not playing without audio muted that started this thread. And from what I've seen on the net there is potentially a lot of manual configuration required to get pipewire to work, so my view on what I'm seeing is pipewire is not exactly stable.

Clearly pipewire *is* working for the vast majority of people with no configuration required.  I didn't even notice the transition. If you look online, you are most likely going to find the people that are having trouble because all the ones that are working have no reason to post.  And often the reason it's not working is because of messing with the configs.

I also can't remove pulseaudio because pulseaudio-module-bluetooth want to remove Gnome-shell.

Considering that I have gnome-shell installed without that package, it's not actually required.  You need to look at the dependency messages to see what's causing the problem.
The message was "pulseaudio-module-bluetooth can't be removed because it would remove protected package gnome-shell". The equivalent package in pipewire had exactly the same issue.

I've just gotten back on after a fresh install, because I tried a suggestion in an earlier thread to remove packages by passing dependencies and removed pulseaudio and after doing that and rebooting both Gnome and KDE refused to start. I installed F36 from a live cd and it installed both pipewire and pulseaudio and configured the system to use pulseaudio, and youtube videos play properly with sound. After installing F36 I tried using dnf swap pulseaudio pipewire, but that refused to proceed complaining pulseaudio couldn't be replaced by pipewire because that process wanted to uninstall gnome-shell. I've upgraded to F37 and the youtube videos are still playing properly, I haven't verified yet whether pulseaudio is still installed, but I'm assuming it is given the gnome-shell issue. I had to do the F36 and upgrade to F37 twice because the first upgrade to F37 destroyed my system. After the first upgrade every time I didn't anything on the desktop everything would flash.

regards,
Steve

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