> That's funny.  Randomly delete some system files and the boot partition 
> and ask a new user to fix it.  Good luck.  Almost always, even for not 
> new users, any serious windows problem is solved by reinstalling the system.

This is demonstrably not true, but also not relevant and I have no interest in 
getting bogged down arguing about it.

> I have installed Fedora on a very wide variety of laptops and almost 
> never had any issues.  The only serious issues were an unsupported wifi 
> card and a BIOS that absolutely insisted on booting windows.

Okay...good for you? I don't see how this helps my situation, not why you seem 
to have bought it up as if to...deny what I've already observed in my own case?

> Hopefully the lesson is that installing over an existing install is 
> going to cause some problems with that original install.

Yes, although I'm starting to see some wider lessons about the nature of Linux 
itself and the discussions around it. But for now I want to focus on fixing my 
current problem.


> Since you've already solved all the problems once, won't it be easy to 
> redo that?  Maybe try asking in here for help, since I can't imagine 
> what solutions you found and I wouldn't be surprised that random 
> "solutions" you find online would be causing you even more problems.

No, a lot of those fixes I frankly dont remember now, and in several cases, I'm 
not even sure what I did that actually solved the problem. 

And the discussion here so far is very discouraging in terms of getting any 
productive advice. I'm trying as hard as I am able to provide as much detail as 
I can, and keep up, and everyone seems largely intent on lording as much  
terminology as they can over me to gloat at my inability to translate it to 
meaningful actions, quibbling over side points, or now, seemingly  denying 
there's a problem in the first place.

 Case in point being you own choice to ignore my request to clarify the 
scatter-shot of previously mentioned commands, in favor of going on a tangent 
about how  "well, all my laptops work", as if all you're really interested in 
is invalidating me for asking in the first place.

Frankly,  it's offputting and more than a little offensive. 
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