> On 8 Mar 2022, at 16:35, Ranjan Maitra <mlmai...@gmx.com> wrote: > > On Tue Mar08'22 04:20:48PM, Barry Scott wrote: >> From: Barry Scott <ba...@barrys-emacs.org> >> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 16:20:48 +0000 >> To: Community support for Fedora users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org> >> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org> >> Subject: Re: Time to update the hardware? >> >> >> >>> On 7 Mar 2022, at 06:47, Javier Perez <pepeb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi. >>> I am using Fedora 35 and everything is working fine in general. >>> >>> But I was checking out my hardware and I realized that It is from 2013. My >>> CPU is 4th generation intel and I am using the nvidia-470 drivers for my >>> video card. Motherboard uses the H87 chipset. >>> >>> System is being used for regular home use, no extreme gaming or anything >>> that really stress it out. Occasional ffmpeg usage. >>> >>> I just wonder if this combination will become obsolete anytime soon and >>> should I worry about it... >>> >>> Appreciate your thoughts on the matter. >> >> I use a rule-of-thumb that hardware over 5 years old is likely to fail under >> me. > > Mine is that anything is going to fail under anybody at anytime. The warranty > does not recover the actual drive so I keep several copies using rsync. (This > helped me once, when my desktop HDD suddenly failed with a deadline in less > than two hours). I rather tensely booted into one of my spare laptops and was > able to continue (luckily I had rsynced a short while before and it was > fairly current) and submit on time. The desktop had a spare drive (which was > copied every hour) but I figured it would take more time to figure that out.
Oh yes hardware can fail at any time. Indeed I had an in warranty drive fail after 9 months. And a power supply fail after 13 months My rule of thumb is really based on by experience that after 5 years the probability of a failure rises and I update kit to reset the risks. Between RAID and regular off-site backups I hope to survive the worst events. > >> >> For my file-server/email-server I use RAID enterprise disks with 5 >> year warranty. >> When I'm at the end of the 5 years I replace the server completely. >> >> My main desktop machine is getting old, coming up in 7 years, and parts >> keep failing. >> >> The motherboard ethernet died a little while ago and I added a ethernet >> card. CPU fan sometime is noisy. >> >> Now when booted into Windows 1 core is 90% busy all the time in >> "System Interrupt" process. Fedora thinks the hardware is fine. > > Right, Fedora is able to handle things better, IMO. I also use openbox and no > DE so I feel a bit more confident, perhaps without reason, that I am > subjecting my machine(s) (even the ones with high resources) to > (infinitesimally) less stress. After poking fun of my "Shunya (zero) > distribution" as I call my personal "Fedora remix/spin" my wife prefers it > too because she agrees it is snappier. Provided your hardware has good thermal design then that variation in load will not matter. Run at 90% CPU 24x7 works for years (without reboot with some users). I have worked on hardware/software appliances where we learned the hard way that the thermal design is critical to getting a very low RMA rate. We had the software monitor the temperature within the product and shut it down when it was in danger of going out of spec. This was a while ago and it was the HDD's that failed first. Once you get to the rated temperature max for a HDD its life can be measured in days. Also I note is that we found that early hardware failures could be weeded out by using a 24 hour burn in period. Barry > > Ranjan > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
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