On 14/07/2021 07:33, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 14/7/21 08:59, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 14/07/2021 06:49, mcgarrett wrote:
On July 6, 2021 at 5:29 PM Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallag...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 15:01 -0400, mcgarrett wrote:
 From the mail, it appears that a software TPM should solve the
problem on older computers,
but it occurs to me that you might not be permitted to install the
software unless
a TPM is found. So, for those who have already tried version 11, has
any one of you
tried installing on an older laptop, and then adding a software TPM,
or is this impossible?  --doug
As stated earlier, my system doesn´t have a hardware TPM, but adding a
software TPM in virt-manager was enough.

poc
Three questions:
Background: I have Windows 10 on the computer, even tho there are no apps
on it--I only use Linux. There may someday be a need for Windows?
Q1: Could you install the win 11 and then add the TPM s/w, or must the TPM
be on the machine already.
Q2: If it must be on the machine already, do you install it from a previous
version of Windows, i.e., Win 10? If not then how?
Q3: Would you please direct me to the source of the TPM you installed?
Thank you--doug

The "software" TPM being talked about is more like TPM emulation. It can be 
added to
any VM via virt-manager on the "Hardware" screen and using the button in the 
lower left
to add hardware.

The TPM can be added to any VM.  The one caveat is that the VM must have been 
created to
boot via UEFI and not BIOS.  That option needs to be specified when the VM was 
created.

None of my motherboards have a TPM.  So I use the emulation. However, if you're 
motherboard does
have a TPM, I believe there is an option when adding TPM to a VM to use "Pass 
Thru".

It isn't possible, AFAIK, to simply change a VM from BIOS to UEFI.

I have a question about TPM hardware.
Fedora 34 running as an image in a Vmware Player VM on a Windows 10 host 
reports that I don't have a TPM chip, and with Windows 10 running in a 
Virtualbox (both these VM' are the free versions of the VM's) VM on the same 
Windows 10 host when I try to update the image to Windows 11 it says the 
environment does not meet the install requirements. Vmware Player doesn't 
support UEFI but Virtualbox does and is active in the VM images. If I try 
upgrade the native Windows 10 host Windows 11 says it can install on my 
hardware. The Bios indicates that I have activated fTPM in my AMD Rizen cpu 
which Windows 11 seems to be finding, are the VM's suppressing the TPM 
functionality because I need to buy the commercial versions that allow a TPM to 
be added to the VM's as a device, or is Windows 11 and Fedora 34 not looking 
for the hardware the right way when running in a VM?


I don't use Vmware or VirtualBox.  So, I can't answer this.

--
Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread.
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