To me. Any company shipping Linux on their hardware is far from being a
joke.


EGO II

On Sun, Apr 4, 2021, 4:05 AM Richard Hughes <hughsi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 10:01, lejeczek via users
> <users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > if you too jumped on that bandwagon of (fake) Lenovo euphoria towards
> support, in
> > generic terms, for Linux by the company - which is BAD across the board.
>
> That's not what I've experienced: I've been working with Lenovo for
> about 2 years now, with ThinkStation, ThinkCenter and ThinkPad teams
> (including sub-teams of ME, BIOS, etc), and about a dozen ODMs and
> IHVs with my firmware work on the LVFS and fwupd. Although Lenovo had
> some catching up to do, they now ship about as much firmware on the
> LVFS (in terms of absolute downloads, and also in terms of models
> supported) as Dell. In the last 18 months I've seen a Lenovo Linux
> team grow from almost nothing to having almost daily contact with a
> Senior Linux Developer at Lenovo. They are increasing the number of
> models (and type of hardware) with firmware on the LVFS and I'll have
> some more announcements about all that when it's all public.
>
> As I understand it, Lenovo only formally "supports Fedora" on models
> actually sold with Fedora preinstalled (which is fair enough in my
> opinion). At least unofficially I know there are a *huge* number of
> other models that are being tested with Fedora and RHEL, and with
> firmware updates available on the LVFS. I've been given access to
> their IHVs and ODMs supplying devices and silicon to them, and the
> support of Linux by Lenovo has contributed a huge amount to the
> success of the LVFS.
>
> I think calling Lenovo a "joke" considering how much progress they've
> made in the last 18 months is a huge mischaracterization. I buy Lenovo
> and I've been Linux-exclusive for about the last 15 years.
>
> Richard.
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