On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 17:15, Ed Greshko <ed.gres...@greshko.com> wrote:

> On 2020-07-18 03:59, Paul Smith wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 7:14 PM Samuel Sieb <sam...@sieb.net> wrote:
> >>> I would like to buy a cheap Bluetooth receiver/transmitter for my
> >>> desktop computer running Fedora 32. I have searched eBay for that, but
> >>> meanwhile learned that most of them do not work on Linux. So, could
> >>> you  please advise me on that?
> >> Where did you see that most don't work?  I think it's the opposite.  As
> >> far as I know, they all work.  It's USB wifi devices that you're more
> >> likely to have trouble with (at least 5GHz ones).  I recently needed a
> >> bluetooth dongle for BLE and picked one of the cheaper ones I could find
> >> and it just worked.
> > Thanks, Samuel and George. I found issues of compatibility with Linux at:
> >
> > https://www.thetechlounge.com/best-bluetooth-adapter/
> >
> > Meanwhile, I bought the following Bluetooth dongle, which was very
> > cheap and therefore the risk is low:
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/143581114516
>
> Well, I was like Samuel and thought that all BT dongles work fine under
> Linux.
>
> However, I just bought one to replace a failed device.  It is a newer
> model which is
> marked CSR 5 in support of BT version 5.  It fails to be recognized by
> bluez as adapter.
>

CSR <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSR_(company)> was formerly Cambridge
Silicon Radio, now owned by Qualcomm and qualified
under the name "Qualcomm Technologies International, Ltd. (QTIL)".   It may
not be easy
to see technical documentation:

Qualcomm Technologies International, Ltd. Confidential and Proprietary -
Qualcomm Technologies International, Ltd. (formerly known as Cambridge
Silicon Radio Ltd.) NO PUBLIC DISCLOSURE PERMITTED: Please report postings
of this document on public servers or websites to: docctrlag...@qualcomm.com.
Restricted Distribution: Not to be distributed to anyone who is not an
employee of either ...

Did the packaging have the bluetooth logo
<https://www.bluetooth.com/develop-with-bluetooth/marketing-branding/>?
 To get the logo your device has to pass
the Bluetooth Qualification Process.    Can you find your device
<https://launchstudio.bluetooth.com/Listings/Search>?   I did find
https://launchstudio.bluetooth.com/ListingDetails/48853.


>
> btmon shows...
>
> > HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 6                #62 [hci0]
> 12.841706
>       Delete Stored Link Key (0x03|0x0012) ncmd 1
>         Status: Unsupported Feature or Parameter Value (0x11)
>         Num keys: 0


BT has lots of features, you may be able to configure around this or
your device may need "quirks" support in a driver.


>
> So, I would stay away from Version 5 products for the time being.
>
> Side note:  The bluez maintainers didn't respond to my query about support
> for this adapter.  :-(
>

>From a youtube comment: "I bought some generic CSR V5, and my PC detected
them,
but they would not connect to any devices. All 5 of them don't work."

Some cheap USB rf devices were designed to be bundled with a particular
external
device (keyboard, mouse, headphone, etc) and lack capabilities expected
from a general
purpose device.

I expect the maintainers have enough work just keeping up with requests
from manufacturers.
One way to get their attention is to send them a couple devices, but I
doubt they are interested
in devices that weren't qualified.

Try a USB 2 port -- some bt5 dongles don't work with USB 3 ports (not
surprising, due to the RF interference problems of USB 3).

--
George N. White III
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