On 1/3/20 11:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-01-04 12:49, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
Hadn't used kde for a few weeks. Trying to start it gave me the message that it 
was not installed. Curious since I've had it on my system for years. following 
the message suggestion ran

dnf groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)"

which happily did nothing but said it was complete. From rpm -qa I see lots of 
kde entries. Same thing happened on my laptop. Both systems running recently 
updated 31. Has kde completely abandoned x11?
How are you trying to start it?

I'm running KDE perfectly fine on F31 and even Rawhide.  Both under X11 since 
I'm not yet interested in
trying Wayland.

Typically just do

startx

from a console boot login.  Tried getting a xserver with

xinit -- :0

and using startkde in the resulting xterm.  Startkde is not Found, there is

startplasma-x11

which gives me the kde startup display and then drops out of xserver and back to the console
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