On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:06 PM Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 08:47:29PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>
>>> We should unify the two lists so as not to have these delirious
>>> threads on an almost twice-yearly basis.
>>
>> I used to read the Test list as well as this one but stopped a
>> couple of years ago when I realised I wasn't getting much out of
>> discussions of Rawhide issues and decided to stick to the stable
>> releases, so unifying the lists would be a retrograde step in my
>> view.
>
> Maybe it would be better to make the distinction a different way.
> The test list is used for communications of the Fedora QA team, and
> for people who are actively, well, _testing_ the software. This list
> is the _users_ list, and is for people who are _using_ the software.
>
> Rather than saying "wrong list!" if someone is using a beta or
> rawhide release _as a user_, we could just be more accepting of
> those posts here. Of course, some times the response would be "well,
> that's beta still, so don't expect perfection". But in reality, a
> lot of software that's updated in rawhide or beta is upstream
> changes, and those changes are likely to land in final. To me, it
> makes perfect sense to talk about the user impact here. In the cases
> where it then goes into a QA topic, we could encourage discussion to
> move to the test list (or to a bug report).

+1

I've just said more or less the same thing (but not as completely or
as well...) in my preceding email.
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