On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 5:46 PM Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:24 PM Richard Shaw <hobbes1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:35 PM Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com>
> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 8:02 AM Richard Shaw <hobbes1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > While I had to run it through the shredder I finally sat down and
> went through all the passwords I've ever used and figured it out :)
> >> >
> >> > I turned off Secure Boot but it still won't boot Fedora.
> >> >
> >> > I finally figured out I had to use -v to get what I wanted from
> efibootmgr:
> >> >
> >> > BootCurrent: 0001
> >> > Timeout: 0 seconds
> >> > BootOrder: 000E,0001,0003,2001,2002,2003
> >>
> >> Offhand, this looks like the problem. 000E points to Windows. You need
> >> to use `efibootmgr --bootorder 0,E,1` so it boots Fedora first. It's
> >> not strictly necessary to list everything in bootorder, you can just
> >> have one. The idea of populating it fully is to have exactly the
> >> predictable fallback boot behavior the user wants, whatever that is.
> >> e.g. if something with the Fedora bootloader gets nerfed then it'd
> >> boot Windows.
> >
> >
> > I'm pressing F12 and manually selecting Fedora, but I did later try to
> change the boot order, both with efibootmgr and in the BIOS to no avail.
>
> OK you changed the bootorder using 'efibootmgr --bootorder' and you
> got what result from that command? Whether it works or doesn't, it
> returns a result that might be useful. And then you can confirm it
> with 'efibootmgr -v' and that also would be useful. And whenever there
> are unexplained results, I like to look at dmesg right before and
> after running efibootmgr (or use journalctl -f in another shell) to
> see if there are any kernel messages at the time. Ultimately the NVRAM
> is modified by the kernel, and efibootmgr is just the user interface
> to those kernel ioctls that do the actual modification of NVRAM.
>

The boot order showed as changed (no error) and as far as I know it
remained after rebooting. It was just not working right and moved on to the
Windows Boot Manager



> Also, there's a bunch of bugs in this area, so I suggest making sure
> the firmware is up to date. I've seen all kinds of weird garbage
> collection issues where entries don't get deleted, or even bootorder
> not sticking, or bootnext not getting set.
>

What's weird is that the exact same laptop was working fine dual booting
before the HD crash. I restored using the same Window (factory USB) restore
stick. The only difference I can think of is that I MIGHT have installed
Fedora 28 on it.



> >> Also, firmware password and UEFI Secure Boot are two different things.
> >> Secure Boot I don't recommend disabling, it's a feature that
> >> cryptographically verifies the bootloaders, the kernel and kernel
> >> modules. If you're building out of tree kernel modules, then it's
> >> understandable to run without Secure Boot but I would still go through
> >> the effort to create your own signing cert, register it in the
> >> firmware, and then use it to sign your modules so that you can enable
> >> secure boot.
> >
> >
> > I disabled it to remove it as the problem, still won't boot Fedora. Once
> I get it working I can mark the efi file (presumably shimx64.efi) as
> trusted and re-enable.
>
> There should be no need to mark any of the Fedora bootloaders,
> shimx64.efi or grubx64.efi, as trusted. The shimx64.efi file is signed
> by both Microsoft and Fedora, the computer firmware should have in its
> database the Microsoft UEFI X.509 cert, and therefore will trust
> shimx64.efi. And shimx64.efi provides the firmware with the Fedora
> X.509 cert so that the firmware will trust grubx64.efi and the kernel
> and kernel modules, all of which are signed by Fedora's signing key.
> If you have to do something special to get the firmware to trust any
> of these things, and you're not compiling your own binaries somewhere
> somehow, then something's wrong - and that needs to be figured out.
>

Well, I "fixed" it but I can't say exactly why it works...

On a whim I re-enabled Secure Boot and then set shimx64.efi as trusted,
which actually created a new EFI entry (Fedora2) and it works!

The only difference I can see is that the entry I setup through the BIOS
uses the PciRoot(...) method instead of HD(...).

Thanks,
Richard
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