On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 18:12 -0700, solarflow99 wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 2:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallag...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 2018-07-06 at 20:09 -0700, solarflow99 wrote:
> > > so it seems only lightdm works, using sddm just gives the black screen
> > 
> > with
> > > a mouse pointer.  Going back to using multi-user.target, what is the
> > > correct way to start x-windows now?  I always used startx.
> > > I also see display-manager.service was enabled, that didn't seem to ever
> > > help though.
> > 
> > [Please don't top-post]
> > 
> > startx dates from the early days of X11. I'm sure some people still
> > find a use for it, but the usual setup just boots into the X
> > environment, normally via a desktop manager. Did you try just
> > rebooting?
> > 
> > 
> 
> ya, but i'm still interested to run X while still being in
> multi-user.target instead of graphical, surely there is a way to do that
> still isn't there?

Of course, and you're already doing it, i.e. you *are* running X from
the console, but running X just means 'run the X11 server with its
default startup script'. It doesn't mean 'run my favourite desktop
environment'. Most DEs have their own customised version of startx
which do the work for you, e.g. startkde on my system is a fairly
elaborate script that sets up all sorts of things besides the X server.
Presumably your DE will have something similar, but if not you'll have
to create it.

poc
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