Hi Todd,

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:00, Todd Zullinger <t...@pobox.com> wrote:

> Hi Andre,
>
> Andre Costa wrote:
> > Nice, didn't know about it, thks for the pointer. But, the thing is:
> > I have already used iTunes to transfer music to the iPod (in fact,
> > rhythmbox recognizes it already has 444 songs in it), but there's no
> > 'Device' folder on the 'iTunes_Control' folder, which goes against
> > what's said on that page.
> >
> > So, my question is: is it safe to create such dir, specially
> > considering I already used iTunes on this iPod?
>
> Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to this.  It's possible that
> some other manual step is needed or that the libgpod packages are
> missing something which would automate this process a little better.
> I thought that for a device which had been initialized with iTunes,
> the current libgpod in Fedora 13 would "just work."
>

Yeah, I hoped it would just work when I read F13 release notes, too :-(


> I just asked Christophe Fergeau, one of the main libgpod contributors
> and he confirmed that in general, it should work.  There is currently
> an upstream bug involving playlists.  Christophe suggested testing
> whether adding a track to the main iPod library works and "wait 15
> seconds after the transfer ends."  Another helpful soul in #gtkpod on
> freenode mentioned that since the sync happens with a slight delay, a
> common problem is unplugging the device too soon after the files are
> transferred.
>

I guess I waited a couple of seconds before giving up, but I'll try it again
anyway. And, yes, there's a bug with the playlists -- you can't transfer
songs directly to them, you have to transfer them to the main library and
then assign them to the playlist.


> Another thing to check is that there are no SELinux denials blocking
> the udev callout from working.  This is intended to take the manual
> setup work out of the picture by running whenever an iPod is plugged
> in.  I think we got selinux policy updated, but it never hurts to be
> sure.  If it needs an update, the good folks maintaining SELinux are
> very quick about pushing policy fixes.
>

Right, I'll keep an eye on that. Can I assume that any denials would popup
on that app that monitors SELinux problems? (it is enabled here) Or should I
search log files for any problems?


> I don't have any of the newer Apple hardware to test so I can't
> generally poke at this stuff myself.  (And I believe my days of owning
> Apple hardware, nice as it may be, are over.  Chasing down how to make
> it work on any non-Apple sanctioned operating systems has grown old.)
>

Yeah, it's a real PITA having to play catch-up with Apple, their "my way or
the highway" attitude is incredibly annoying. I'm really thankful for the
guys who spend their time reverse engineering Apple products, but there
should really be a better way.

Regards,

Andre
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