On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 08:38 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 09/21/2017 11:30 PM, Cristian Sava wrote:
> > Why do I need to specify this long list of parameters for basic
> > things?
> 
> 
> If you're doing this for virtualization purposes (as opposed to
> creating 
> a network bridge with multiple interfaces), the simpler answer is:
> 
>     virsh iface-bridge eth0 br0 --no-stp
Well, it's not that simple:

[cristi@localhost ~]$ sudo virsh iface-bridge enp5s0 br0 --no-stp
[sudo] password for cristi: 
error: An error occurred, but the cause is unknown

[cristi@localhost ~]$ sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager
[cristi@localhost ~]$ systemctl start network
Job for network.service failed because the control process exited with
error code.
See "systemctl  status network.service" and "journalctl  -xe" for
details.

This is from my F26 home desktop with F23 and F28 in virtual (I don't
care here of dirrect connection to the main interface but I tested
virsh)  
Yes I can fix it but ...
On the same box, following
https://fedoramagazine.org/build-network-bridge-fedora/ 
all is working as expected with NM and without NM_CONTROLLED=NO

And sure I can write a simple script and use it ...
so, let's stop this debate and leave things as they are.

Sorry for the late response
C.S.
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