-----Original Message-----
From: fcas...@gmail.com
Sent: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:53:09 -0500
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: The continuous crippling of Fedora LiveCDs by removing usefull stuff 
for no apparent reason

Once upon a time, I believe it was Fedora 17 or Fedora 19, I was a happy camper.

That was because OpenJDK 7 was included in the LiveCD image.

Suddenly (I don't remember which release, but you can check the mailing list 
archives for my rant on the matter) OpenJDK binaries were removed from the live 
CD so I could no longer "java -jar JavaImageEditor.jar" nor could I use JNLP to 
launch desktop Java apps.

I came to the list at the time to rant, and if I remember correctly the answer 
was that OpenJDK was removed from the LiveCD due to space constraints, and that 
it was a real challenge to keep everything to still fit into a CD image.
-- 

During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
- George Orwell
***** Snip removed/edited ******

A bigger Specialized spin called Scientific has OpenJDK :)  
Since nowadays we still need a DVD since nothing fits on a CD anymore :(

https://labs.fedoraproject.org/en/scientific/

It should contain JAVA as it is listed here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Scientific_Packages_List

For an emergency situation, ie, hardrive failure, *not being able to use your 
own computer*, one has to have a tool as Fernando recommends where one can run 
java stuff from a livecd/dvd/usb and luckily it is available as a Scientific 
Spin where we can use tex/latex, gnuplot and other goodies as well :)  and 
without needing to installing it.  

Best Regards,



Antonio A. Olivares

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