Mauro,

A few notes:

1. You won't be able to tell make and model from the incoming SMS. SMS
protocol doesn't have any means to inform you about the kind of device
sending the message, so you'll probably have to ask that (by means of some
sort of interactive menu or similar methods).

2. Not all models support the same formats, and as I've stated before, there
are some models that support shorter messages only.

3. On Kannel source, check on /contrib/web folder, there are some examples
on sending many different formats (mostly legacy). Despite not having EMS
and SCKL, the "TUNE" mode uses SmartMessaging and it should serve you as a
guide about how to implement the other formats.

That being said, yes, that would work out for legacy phones IMHO.

Regards,

Alejandro Guerrieri

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:11 AM, mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ah ok great,
> let me figure out the situation:
> we are using kannel attached to an SMSC, we are receiving sms from users to
> request contents for thier legacy phone, old nokia old motorola and so on.
> we have contents for old phones and we need to be able to send back to the
> usr the reuqested content in the format supported by the handset.
> we have all the info about handset, so accoirding to what u wrote me we
> could
> -) converting contents offline ( maybe using ringtone tools) generating
> different output
> -) mapping the output to the handset model
> - send the generated output to the user hnadset according to the handset
>
> EMS and SCK  for sure will work , so according to what you wrote we have to
> experiment sending other formats to other handset.
>
> are EMS and SCK  supported by all the legacy phone? if the user get this
> sms is the handset able to recognize it as a ringtone? maybe we could use
> only this two formats
>
> thanks
> Mauro
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *Da:* Alejandro Guerrieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *A:* mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Cc:* llista kannel <[email protected]>
> *Inviato:* Giovedì 13 novembre 2008, 16:50:18
>
> *Oggetto:* Re: I: imy format to send via SMS
>
> Mauro,
>
> What's the format you want to send? EMS?
>
> EMS is a "container" to send other formats. For example, E/IMY, and
> E/IMELODY, which are text formats. EMS was widely supported by Motorola,
> Siemens, Alcatel and other brands (Nokia had his SmartMessaging protocol so
> most Nokias doesn't support it). The only main difference is that
> older/crippled models didn't support more than 128 bytes of data, nor
> multipart messages (EMS does support sending the data in more than one
> message with proper headers added).
>
> For old Nokias, you may use SCKL, which is a text-based format, capable of
> multipart as well, or "nokia" (SmartMessaging).p
>
> You'll have to experiment a little to get EMS and SCKL working, but Kannel
> can deliver it with no problems.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alejandro Guerrieri
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:10 AM, mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> yes it can helps
>> the only point is that ringtone tools have the following out type
>> which is for binary transcoding?
>> the transcoded file can be used for evry mobile? or we have different
>> formats for different handsets?
>>
>> -outtype <output type> [
>> 3210/bmp/dsp/emelody,emy/ems/gif/ico,icon/imelody,imy/kws/midi,mid/mot/nol,ngg/nokia,sckl,ott/pdb/rtttl/rtx/samsung1/samsung2/siemens/seo/text,txt/wav/wbmp
>> ]
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *Da:* Alejandro Guerrieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> *A:* mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> *Cc:* llista kannel <[email protected]>
>> *Inviato:* Mercoledì 12 novembre 2008, 17:06:17
>> *Oggetto:* Re: I: imy format to send via SMS
>>
>> Try with ringtonetools, it can convert from/to a lot of formats, including
>> IMY and EMS.
>>
>> http://ringtonetools.mikekohn.net/
>>
>> Hope it helps,
>>
>> Alejandro Guerrieri
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM, mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>  **
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> thanks for you replay.
>>> is there any script that does this work?
>>> if we are different format of the source file ( imy, ott) should we
>>> change the script?
>>>
>>> I think that the conversione can be done also offline, i mean , i can get
>>> the imy file ( or the ott ) pass it to the script and obtain the the file
>>> converted to send via kannel, am i right?
>>> this solutioin could be used to convert one time every file and send it
>>> many times withoud trascoding  it on the fly, am not sure if we need to
>>> chenge the trascoding accoirding to teh mobile handset.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *Da:* Mike Nwaogu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> *A:* [email protected]
>>> *Inviato:* Mercoledì 12 novembre 2008, 15:06:37
>>> *Oggetto:* Re: imy format to send via SMS
>>>
>>> Hi Mauro,
>>> Kannel doesn't do any conversions.
>>> You can send imy files as EMS, you'll need to do some conversions though.
>>>
>>> You'll need a script that can convert those imy content to a HEX string
>>> and send it with the udh of the message caculated and setup. Set
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike Nwaogu
>>> Tel: 234_802_325_6437
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:48:57 PM
>>> *Subject:* imy format to send via SMS
>>>
>>> we are using kannel and we would like to send
>>> some content for legacy phone via SMS, we ahve different source file for
>>> example imy, ott etc.
>>> can we send this content through kannel directly or we have to convert
>>> them in binary?
>>>
>>> if binary conversion if needed how can we do? does kannel support
>>> conversion?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>
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