Hi,
 I know the limitation about the size. However, what I was trying to get at was 
testing if the partner SMSC is doing the "split" themselves. It seems the 2 
parts wappush isn't reaching the phone, so we want to try with sending 1 big 
wappush to them. That was the reason I was looking at a way to disable the 
"concatenation" here.

 Tips: Using a hex converter you can extract the important information from a 
wappush binary format. Any online search give lot of result like this page: 
http://www.paulschou.com/tools/xlate/

Regards,
-------
Mathieu Bruneau



-----Original Message-----
From: Falko Ziemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:03 AM
To: Aarno Syvänen
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Wappush Split - Not wanted

It's not duplication. A sms can contain a maximum of 140 Byte:
A normal SMS has 160 characters in a charset of 7 bit, so: (160 * 7) /
8 = 140 Byte. But if you design a wappush-message (wappush is a binary message, 
not "human-readable" - actually with some training you can read it, but it's 
not designed for that) with more than 140 byte it gets splitted into several 
message which get concatenated by the receiver phone. So this is fragmentation 
not duplication.
Because Wappush is binary you cannot simply cut off everything more than 140 
Byte (and you surely don't want it, otherwise you would already had made it 
shorter before). If you want to put the whole wappush into one sms you have to 
make it shorter. So an important criteria for wappush is, that you use a URL as 
short as possible and a minimum of text.
I am very aware of the cost of a sms, but if you go to ikea and buy a new 
wardrobe you have to drive several times, because it doesn't fit into your 
Nissan Micra all at once. Sorry for the silly metaphor - I saw too much 
"House,MD" the last week ;-)

Regards
Falko

2008/7/15 Aarno Syvänen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> remember the price of a sms. There is no reason to duplicate it.
>
> Aarno
>
> On 14 Jul 2008, at 20:50, Falko Ziemann wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> the concatenation switch turns a message with more than 140 byte in 
>> multiple messages which can be concatenated by the phone (so multiple 
>> submit_sm ... works great, documentation fine). If you want a working 
>> wappush message in only one message, than ... make it shorter
>>
>> Regards
>> Falko
>>
>> 2008/7/14 Mathieu Bruneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> We are facing issue with a partner where our wappush is being 
>>> splitted in
>>> 2
>>> submit_sm. I found in the documentation a "concatenation" parameter 
>>> in the wap-push-user group which I wanted to try so maybe it won't 
>>> do that kind of split :)
>>>
>>> However I found out that the parameter seems invalid. Is there 
>>> another way to do the same thing ?
>>>
>>> I guess the documentation should be corrected on that matter :)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> -------
>>> Mathieu Bruneau
>>>
>>>

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