> > 2. You get an account with some SMS provider, VAS ASP, or some mobile > operator. You setup kannel to connect to them using the protocol of their > choice (SMPP, UCP, CIMD, HTTP, etc etc) and send you messages thought > them. > You still need to pay for the traffic to those providers, ASP's or > operators. >
Another newbie question... What is "VAS ASP"? Is that "Value Added Service" for "Active Server Pages"? e.g., an sms interface for asp? On 9/12/07, Philip Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dimitris, > > > > Thanks for the thorough reply. This is more or less what I had intuited > from reading that tutorial and Kannel's docs. > > > > However, here's the part I don't understand. I passed along more or less > what you said to my manager, and he pointed out that Verizon (his carrier) > allows free texting by sending emails to the vtext.com domain, e.g. > HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] will text that > number if it's a Verizon user. > > > > I find that not only do most major carriers offer this free service, but > apparently teleflip.com acts as a free gateway to all of them. See > HYPERLINK > "http://www.tech-recipes.com/instant_messaging_tips362.html"; > http://www.tech- > recipes.com/instant_messaging_tips362.html . > > > > So now my question is, what's the benefit to setting up your own account > with a provider / ASP? I would imagine there's still some reason why > people do it, e.g. greater throughput. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Philip > > > > From: Δημήτρης Ευμορφόπουλος [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:00 AM > To: Philip Reed > Subject: RE: Beginner questions about SMS in general > > > > Hello Philip, > > > > You have got the whole issue right up to a point, and that is > sending free SMSs .. Nothing is free in this world J . > > > > Now here is the deal. > > > > 1. You setup one or more phones use something like kannel to use them > as > SMSCs and you send all your messages through them. You still need to pay > for > the phones, sims and the sms traffic you make over those sims. > > 2. You get an account with some SMS provider, VAS ASP, or some mobile > operator. You setup kannel to connect to them using the protocol of their > choice (SMPP, UCP, CIMD, HTTP, etc etc) and send you messages thought > them. > You still need to pay for the traffic to those providers, ASP's or > operators. > > 3. You go to an ASP and they give you an HTTP url that you 'get/post' > to > send your messages. You still need to pay for the traffic. > > > > In all cases (and these are all cases available) you need to pay. There is > no such thing as a free service unless you offer it free and get your > income > from some other source like some free SMS sites do. (I know I have helped > setup 2 of those, one gone down a while ago) > > > > Your final choice is reverse charge premium SMS, which is not > offered by all mobile operators, and is usually localized. This is a > premium > sms service where your customers are charged for receiving and SMS, not > sending one. If you have access to an operator or ASP that carries such a > premium number/service and your customers are localized to this > ASP/operator > than you can still use kannel to connect to the operator to send your > messages there, and get some income for sending messages. If you customers > are all over the world, then forget I ever mentioned it. Reverse charge > premium sms is not widely offered since it is easy to overcharge people > for > messages they do not want, either on purpose or by software error. > > > > So finally if you are looking for a way to send SMSs for free > you are out of luck. If you need to send SMSs without charging your > customers then you need to find an alternative source of income to > compensate for the SMS charges as well as a cheap SMS > provider/ASP/operator. > > > > Dimitris Evmorfopoulos > > _____ > > From: Philip Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Beginner questions about SMS in general > > > > These questions are going to be terribly rudimentary because I don't yet > understand some fundamental questions about how Kannel fits in the big > picture. I've perused the FAQ but not really found answers to these, but > feel free to redirect me to somewhere I can find answers. > > > > I'm tasked with finding a way to provide text messages to our Web site > users > with certain information on request. I've read the first 11 chapters of > this SMS tutorial: HYPERLINK > "http://www.developershome.com/sms/"http://www.developershome.com/sms/ . > It seems to imply that we need to either send (1)our messages via a mobile > phone or modem, (2) directly by setting up an account with an SMSC, or (3) > by paying a service provider on a per-message basis. I infer that Kannel > fits into those last two options, and that, although Kannel itself is > free, > it doesn't eliminate the need to pay someone for access to an SMSC (either > directly to the SMSC or via a service provider). Is this accurate so > far? > > > > Given that we'd like to find a completely free solution, and that most > wireless providers appear to offer free email- or Web-based text messaging > to their own customers, it's hard to see the benefits for us to setting up > our own gateway. What are the practical advantages to going with this > setup? Is there some volume of outgoing messages at which using each > provider's free interface ceases to be practical? Or is it just the cost > in time associated with using all these different email interfaces instead > of one common one? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Philip > > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/988 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 > 9:14 AM > > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/988 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 > 9:14 AM > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/988 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 > 9:14 AM > > > >
