Ted: when choosing earliest/latest you are saying: if it happens that there
is no "valid" offset committed for a consumer (for whatever reason:
bug/misconfiguration/no luck) it will be ok to start from the beginning or
end of the topic. So if you are not ok with that you should choose none.

Dmitriy: Ok. Then it is spring-kafka that maintains this offset per
partition state for you. it might also has that problem of leaving stale
offsets lying around, After quickly looking through
https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-kafka/blob/1945f29d5518e3c4a9950ba82135420dfb61e808/spring-kafka/src/main/java/org/springframework/kafka/listener/KafkaMessageListenerContainer.java
it looks possible since offsets map is not cleared upon partition
revocation, but that is just a hypothesis. I have no experience with
spring-kafka. However since you say you consumers were always active I find
this theory worth investigating.


2017-10-06 18:20 GMT+02:00 Vincent Dautremont <
vincent.dautrem...@olamobile.com.invalid>:

> is there a way to read messages on a topic partition from a specific node
> we that we choose (and not by the topic partition leader) ?
> I would like to read myself that each of the __consumer_offsets partition
> replicas have the same consumer group offset written in it in it.
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Dmitriy Vsekhvalnov <
> dvsekhval...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Stas:
> >
> > we rely on spring-kafka, it  commits offsets "manually" for us after
> event
> > handler completed. So it's kind of automatic once there is constant
> stream
> > of events (no idle time, which is true for us). Though it's not what pure
> > kafka-client calls "automatic" (flush commits at fixed intervals).
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Stas Chizhov <schiz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > You don't have autocmmit enables that means you commit offsets
> yourself -
> > > correct? If you store them per partition somewhere and fail to clean it
> > up
> > > upon rebalance next time the consumer gets this partition assigned
> during
> > > next rebalance it can commit old stale offset- can this be the case?
> > >
> > >
> > > fre 6 okt. 2017 kl. 17:59 skrev Dmitriy Vsekhvalnov <
> > > dvsekhval...@gmail.com
> > > >:
> > >
> > > > Reprocessing same events again - is fine for us (idempotent). While
> > > loosing
> > > > data is more critical.
> > > >
> > > > What are reasons of such behaviour? Consumers are never idle, always
> > > > commiting, probably something wrong with broker setup then?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Ted Yu <yuzhih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Stas:
> > > > > bq.  using anything but none is not really an option
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have time, can you explain a bit more ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Stas Chizhov <schiz...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you set auto.offset.reset to none next time it happens you
> will
> > be
> > > > in
> > > > > > much better position to find out what happens. Also in general
> with
> > > > > current
> > > > > > semantics of offset reset policy IMO using anything but none is
> not
> > > > > really
> > > > > > an option unless it is ok for consumer to loose some data
> (latest)
> > or
> > > > > > reprocess it second time (earliest).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > fre 6 okt. 2017 kl. 17:44 skrev Ted Yu <yuzhih...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Should Kafka log warning if log.retention.hours is lower than
> > > number
> > > > of
> > > > > > > hours specified by offsets.retention.minutes ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Manikumar <
> > > manikumar.re...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > normally, log.retention.hours (168hrs)  should be higher than
> > > > > > > > offsets.retention.minutes (336 hrs)?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Dmitriy Vsekhvalnov <
> > > > > > > > dvsekhval...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Ted,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Broker: v0.11.0.0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Consumer:
> > > > > > > > > kafka-clients v0.11.0.0
> > > > > > > > > auto.offset.reset = earliest
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Ted Yu <
> yuzhih...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What's the value for auto.offset.reset  ?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Which release are you using ?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Dmitriy Vsekhvalnov <
> > > > > > > > > > dvsekhval...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > we several time faced situation where consumer-group
> > > started
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > re-consume
> > > > > > > > > > > old events from beginning. Here is scenario:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1. x3 broker kafka cluster on top of x3 node zookeeper
> > > > > > > > > > > 2. RF=3 for all topics
> > > > > > > > > > > 3. log.retention.hours=168 and
> > > > offsets.retention.minutes=20160
> > > > > > > > > > > 4. running sustainable load (pushing events)
> > > > > > > > > > > 5. doing disaster testing by randomly shutting down 1
> of
> > 3
> > > > > broker
> > > > > > > > nodes
> > > > > > > > > > > (then provision new broker back)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Several times after bouncing broker we faced situation
> > > where
> > > > > > > consumer
> > > > > > > > > > group
> > > > > > > > > > > started to re-consume old events.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > consumer group:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1. enable.auto.commit = false
> > > > > > > > > > > 2. tried graceful group shutdown, kill -9 and
> terminating
> > > AWS
> > > > > > nodes
> > > > > > > > > > > 3. never experienced re-consumption for given cases.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What can cause that old events re-consumption? Is it
> > > related
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > bouncing
> > > > > > > > > > > one of brokers? What to search in a logs? Any broker
> > > settings
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > try?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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