Note that Sumant has been working on a KIP proposal to make the producer
timeout behaviour more intuitive:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-91+Provide+Intuitive+User+Timeouts+in+The+Producer

Ismael

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Rajini Sivaram <rajinisiva...@googlemail.com
> wrote:

> If you just want to test retries, you could restart Kafka while the
> producer is running and you should see the producer retry while Kafka is
> down/leader is being elected after Kafka restarts. If you specifically want
> a TimeoutException to trigger all retries, I am not sure how you can. I
> would suggest that you raise a JIRA since the current behaviour is not very
> intuitive.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Mevada, Vatsal <mev...@sky.optymyze.com>
> wrote:
>
> > @Asaf
> >
> >
> >
> > Do I need to raise new bug for this?
> >
> >
> >
> > @Rajini
> >
> >
> >
> > Please suggest some the configuration with which retries should work
> > according to you. The code is already there in the mail chain. I am
> adding
> > it here again:
> >
> >
> >
> > public void produce(String topicName, String filePath, String
> > bootstrapServers, String encoding) {
> >
> >                 try (BufferedReader bf = getBufferedReader(filePath,
> > encoding);
> >
> >                                 KafkaProducer<Object, String> producer =
> > initKafkaProducer(bootstrapServers)) {
> >
> >                                 String line;
> >
> >                                 while ((line = bf.readLine()) != null) {
> >
> >                                                 producer.send(new
> > ProducerRecord<>(topicName, line), (metadata, e) -> {
> >
> >                                                                 if (e !=
> > null) {
> >
> >
> >       e.printStackTrace();
> >
> >                                                                 }
> >
> >                                                 });
> >
> >                                 }
> >
> >                                 producer.flush();
> >
> >                 } catch (IOException e) {
> >
> >                                 Throwables.propagate(e);
> >
> >                 }
> >
> > }
> >
> >
> >
> > private static KafkaProducer<Object, String> initKafkaProducer(String
> > bootstrapServer) {
> >
> >                 Properties properties = new Properties();
> >
> >                 properties.put("bootstrap.servers", bootstrapServer);
> >
> >                 properties.put("key.serializer", StringSerializer.class.
> > getCanonicalName());
> >
> >                 properties.put("value.serializer",StringSerializer.
> > class.getCanonicalName());
> >
> >                 properties.put("acks", "-1");
> >
> >                 properties.put("retries", 50000);
> >
> >                 properties.put("request.timeout.ms", 1);
> >
> >                 return new KafkaProducer<>(properties);
> >
> > }
> >
> >
> >
> > private BufferedReader getBufferedReader(String filePath, String
> encoding)
> > throws UnsupportedEncodingException, FileNotFoundException {
> >
> >                 return new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(new
> > FileInputStream(filePath), Optional.ofNullable(encoding).
> > orElse("UTF-8")));
> >
> > }
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Vatsal
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rajini Sivaram [mailto:rajinisiva...@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: 06 December 2016 17:27
> > To: users@kafka.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Detecting when all the retries are expired for a message
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe batches in RecordAccumulator are expired after
> > request.timeout.ms, so they wouldn't get retried in this case. I think
> > the config options are quite confusing, making it hard to figure out the
> > behavior without looking into the code.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Asaf Mesika <asaf.mes...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:asaf.mes...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Vatsal:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I don't think they merged the fix for this bug (retries doesn't work)
> >
> > > in 0.9.x to 0.10.0.1: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/1547
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:19 AM Mevada, Vatsal
> >
> > > <mev...@sky.optymyze.com<mailto:mev...@sky.optymyze.com>>
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Hello,
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Bumping up this thread in case anyone of you have any say on this
> > issue.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Regards,
> >
> > > > Vatsal
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > > From: Mevada, Vatsal
> >
> > > > Sent: 02 December 2016 16:16
> >
> > > > To: Kafka Users <users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:
> users@kafka.apache.org>
> > >
> >
> > > > Subject: RE: Detecting when all the retries are expired for a
> >
> > > > message
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > I executed the same producer code for a single record file with
> >
> > > > following
> >
> > > > config:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >         properties.put("bootstrap.servers", bootstrapServer);
> >
> > > >         properties.put("key.serializer",
> >
> > > > StringSerializer.class.getCanonicalName());
> >
> > > >         properties.put("value.serializer",
> >
> > > > StringSerializer.class.getCanonicalName());
> >
> > > >         properties.put("acks", "-1");
> >
> > > >         properties.put("retries", 50000);
> >
> > > >         properties.put("request.timeout.ms", 1);
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > I have kept request.timeout.ms=1 to make sure that message delivery
> >
> > > > will fail with TimeoutException. Since the retries are 50000 then
> >
> > > > the program should take at-least 50000 ms (50 seconds) to complete
> for
> > single record.
> >
> > > > However the program is completing almost instantly with only one
> >
> > > > callback with TimeoutException. I suspect that producer is not going
> >
> > > > for any retries. Or am I missing something in my code?
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > My Kafka version is 0.10.0.1.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Regards,
> >
> > > > Vatsal
> >
> > > > Am I missing any configuration or
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > > From: Ismael Juma [mailto:isma...@gmail.com]
> >
> > > > Sent: 02 December 2016 13:30
> >
> > > > To: Kafka Users <users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:
> users@kafka.apache.org>
> > >
> >
> > > > Subject: RE: Detecting when all the retries are expired for a
> >
> > > > message
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > The callback is called after the retries have been exhausted.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Ismael
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > On 2 Dec 2016 3:34 am, "Mevada, Vatsal" <mev...@sky.optymyze.com<
> > mailto:mev...@sky.optymyze.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > @Ismael:
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > I can handle TimeoutException in the callback. However as per the
> >
> > > > > documentation of Callback(link: https://kafka.apache.org/0100/
> >
> > > > > javadoc/org/apache/kafka/clients/producer/Callback.html),
> >
> > > > > TimeoutException is a retriable exception and it says that it "may
> >
> > > > > be covered by increasing #.retries". So even if I get
> >
> > > > > TimeoutException in callback, wouldn't it try to send message
> >
> > > > > again until all the retries are done? Would it be safe to assume
> >
> > > > > that message delivery is failed permanently just by encountering
> > TimeoutException in callback?
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Here is a snippet from above mentioned documentation:
> >
> > > > > "exception - The exception thrown during processing of this record.
> >
> > > > > Null if no error occurred. Possible thrown exceptions include:
> >
> > > > > Non-Retriable exceptions (fatal, the message will never be sent):
> >
> > > > > InvalidTopicException OffsetMetadataTooLargeException
> >
> > > > > RecordBatchTooLargeException RecordTooLargeException
> >
> > > > > UnknownServerException Retriable exceptions (transient, may be
> >
> > > > > covered by increasing #.retries): CorruptRecordException
> >
> > > > > InvalidMetadataException NotEnoughReplicasAfterAppendException
> >
> > > > > NotEnoughReplicasException OffsetOutOfRangeException
> >
> > > > > TimeoutException UnknownTopicOrPartitionException"
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > @asaf :My kafka - API version is 0.10.0.1. So I think I should not
> >
> > > > > face the issue that you are mentioning. I mentioned documentation
> >
> > > > > link of 0.9 by mistake.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Regards,
> >
> > > > > Vatsal
> >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > > > From: Asaf Mesika [mailto:asaf.mes...@gmail.com]
> >
> > > > > Sent: 02 December 2016 00:32
> >
> > > > > To: Kafka Users <users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:
> > users@kafka.apache.org>>
> >
> > > > > Subject: Re: Detecting when all the retries are expired for a
> >
> > > > > message
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > There's a critical bug in that section that has only been fixed in
> >
> > > > > 0.9.0.2 which has not been release yet. Without the fix it doesn't
> >
> > > > really retry.
> >
> > > > > I forked the kafka repo, applied the fix, built it and placed it
> >
> > > > > in our own Nexus Maven repository until 0.9.0.2 will be released.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > https://github.com/logzio/apache-kafka/commits/0.9.0.1-logzio
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Feel free to use it.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 4:52 PM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk
> > <mailto:ism...@juma.me.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > > The callback should give you what you are asking for. Has it not
> >
> > > > > > worked as you expect when you tried it?
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > Ismael
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Mevada, Vatsal
> >
> > > > > > <mev...@sky.optymyze.com<mailto:mev...@sky.optymyze.com>>
> >
> > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > I am reading a file and dumping each record on Kafka. Here is
> >
> > > > > > > my producer
> >
> > > > > > > code:
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > public void produce(String topicName, String filePath, String
> >
> > > > > > > bootstrapServers, String encoding) {
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                 try (BufferedReader bf =
> >
> > > > > > > getBufferedReader(filePath, encoding);
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                                 KafkaProducer<Object, String>
> >
> > > > > > > producer =
> >
> > > > > > > initKafkaProducer(bootstrapServers)) {
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                                 String line;
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                                 while ((line = bf.readLine())
> >
> > > > > > > !=
> >
> > > > > > > null) {
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > producer.send(new ProducerRecord<>(topicName, line),
> >
> > > > > > > (metadata, e) -> {
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > if (e !=
> >
> > > > > > > null) {
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >       e.printStackTrace();
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > }
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                                                 });
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                                 }
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                                 producer.flush();
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                 } catch (IOException e) {
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                                 Throwables.propagate(e);
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                 }
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > }
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > private static KafkaProducer<Object, String>
> >
> > > > > > > initKafkaProducer(String
> >
> > > > > > > bootstrapServer) {
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                 Properties properties = new Properties();
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                 properties.put("bootstrap.servers",
> >
> > > > > > > bootstrapServer);
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                 properties.put("key.serializer",
> >
> > > > > StringSerializer.class.
> >
> > > > > > > getCanonicalName());
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                 properties.put("value.serializer",
> >
> > > > > > StringSerializer.class.
> >
> > > > > > > getCanonicalName());
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                 properties.put("acks", "-1");
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                 properties.put("retries", 10);
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                 return new KafkaProducer<>(properties);
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > }
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > private BufferedReader getBufferedReader(String filePath,
> >
> > > > > > > String
> >
> > > > > > encoding)
> >
> > > > > > > throws UnsupportedEncodingException, FileNotFoundException {
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >                 return new BufferedReader(new
> >
> > > > > > > InputStreamReader(new FileInputStream(filePath),
> >
> > > > Optional.ofNullable(encoding).
> >
> > > > > > > orElse("UTF-8")));
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > }
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > As per the official documentation of
> >
> > > > > > > Callback<https://kafka.apache
> >
> > > .
> >
> > > > > > > org/090/javadoc/org/apache/kafka/clients/producer/Callback.htm
> >
> > > > > > > l>, TimeoutException is a retriable exception. As I have kept
> >
> > > > > > > retries 10, producer will try to resend the message if
> >
> > > > > > > delivering some message fails with TimeoutException. I am
> >
> > > > > > > looking for some reliable to way to detect
> >
> > > > > > when
> >
> > > > > > > delivery of a message is failed permanently after all retries.
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Vatsal
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Rajini
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Rajini
>

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