Cody, We do not have an umbrella JIRA for this, but rather a case-by-case JIRA ticket / KIP for API changes in consumer.
If you feel strong about some specific change on the consumer API, please feel free to create a new KIP with the detailed motivation and proposed modifications. Guozhang On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Cody Koeninger <c...@koeninger.org> wrote: > Is there a KIP or Jira related to " working on improving these cases > with improved APIs " ? > > I saw that there was some discussion of it in KIP-41, but that seemed > to have been resolved in favor of keeping everything inside of poll() > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Cody, Mansi: > > > > All good points! Let me try to answer them one-by-one. > > > > About this specific issue, as I suggested in the JIRA we can separate the > > case about resetting offset upon initializing a partition to fetch, from > > the case that fetching offset out-of-range in the auto.offset.reset > config. > > These two scenarios are indeed quite different and it's reasonable > treating > > them differently. > > > > About passing a consumer context to the rebalance callback's constructor, > > we left it for user's flexibility: if you want to use Kafka to commit > > offsets, for example, then you pass the consumer reference to the > callback; > > if you use an external service to store offsets, you can pass a JDBC > > connector, for example, to the callback; for some data mirroring you can > > even pass in another producer client into it. Always enforcing the > consumer > > context could be convenient (i.e. you do not need to pass in the argument > > to the constructor yourself) for some use cases, but not necessarily all. > > > > About wrapping coordination protocols (partition assignment, heartbeat) > > inside "poll()" behind the scene, we implemented the APIs in this way in > > order to abstract the underlying details from the users, and also to > > provide a simple "single-thread-poll-loop" design pattern in the new > > Consumer. We realized that it does actually make some of the use cases > more > > awkward, and are working on improving these cases with improved APIs as > > well. Let us know if you have any suggestions about this. > > > > Guozhang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Mansi Shah <mansis...@maprtech.com> > wrote: > > > >> I second the need for having a consumer context passed to rebalance > >> callback. I have ran into issues several times because of that. > >> > >> About - subscribe vs assign - I have not read through your spark code > yet > >> (will do by eod), so I am not sure what you mean (other than I do agree > >> that new partitions should be consumed automatically). I guess we can > >> continue this discussion on the spark list then :-) > >> > >> Thanks > >> Mansi. > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Cody Koeninger <c...@koeninger.org> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Mansi, I'd agree that the fact that everything is tied up in poll > >> > seems like the source of the awkward behavior. > >> > > >> > Regarding assign vs subscribe, most people using the spark integration > >> > are just going to want to provide a topic name, not go figure out a > >> > bunch of partitions. They're also going to be surprised if things > >> > suddenly blow up once a partition is added, or that partition doesn't > >> > start being consumed (we already have that second issue today). > >> > > >> > Thats why separating the behavior of auto offset reset seems like the > >> > best idea I've heard so far. > >> > > >> > Consumer rebalance listeners are still probably going to be necessary > >> > for people who are storing offsets externally. > >> > > >> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Mansi Shah <mansis...@maprtech.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > Guozhang > >> > > > >> > > Sorry for joining the party a little late. I have been thinking > about > >> > this > >> > > whole awkward behavior of having to call poll(0) to actually make > the > >> > > underlying subscriptions take effect. Is the core reason for this > >> design > >> > > the fact that poll is also the actual heartbeat and you want to make > >> the > >> > > listener group assignments through poll - so that timeouts and > >> > > reassignments can all go through poll? So I think clubbing liveness > >> with > >> > > poll (which in effect clubs consumer group assignments and hence > >> metadata > >> > > fetch with poll) is the real cause of this design. Were there issues > >> > where > >> > > you were seeing active consumers not calling poll that led to this > >> design > >> > > choice? I tried to look for a relevant JIRA but could not find one - > >> can > >> > > you please point me to something if you have it handy? > >> > > > >> > > Btw this would also means that your proposal to do the actual > >> assignments > >> > > through seek might not be ideal since there can still be indefinite > >> time > >> > > between seek and poll (just like between subscribe and poll) and the > >> > > consumer could timeout even before the first poll is called? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > @Cody in your case if you really have only one consumer and it is > going > >> > to > >> > > get all the partitions of the topic anyway - then you might as well > >> > > subscribe using "assign" call instead of "subscribe" call. That will > >> make > >> > > at least your code cleaner and I do not think you are gaining > anything > >> > with > >> > > the listener group functionality anyway? > >> > > > >> > > - Mansi. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> In order to do anything meaningful with the consumer itself in > >> rebalance > >> > >> callback (e.g. commit offset), you would need to hold on the > consumer > >> > >> reference; admittedly it sounds a bit awkward, but by design we > choose > >> > to > >> > >> not enforce it in the interface itself. > >> > >> > >> > >> Guozhang > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Cody Koeninger <c...@koeninger.org > > > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > So what about my comments regarding the consumer rebalance > listener > >> > >> > interface not providing access to a consumer? I can probably > work > >> > around > >> > >> > it, but it seems odd. > >> > >> > On Mar 9, 2016 5:04 PM, "Guozhang Wang" <wangg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > One thing proposed by Jason: > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > If you want to only reset offset upon initialization, and by > >> > >> > initialization > >> > >> > > you mean "no committed offset", you can do sth. like the > following > >> > in > >> > >> > > rebalance callback. > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > @Override > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > public void > >> > >> > onPartitionsAssigned(Collection<TopicPartition> > >> > >> > > partitions) { > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > for (TopicPartition partition : partitions) > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > if (consumer.committed(partition) == > null) > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > consumer.seekToBeginning(partition); > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > } > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Guozhang > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Guozhang Wang < > wangg...@gmail.com > >> > > >> > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3370. > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Cody Koeninger < > >> > c...@koeninger.org> > >> > >> > > wrote: > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> That sounds like an interesting way of addressing the > problem, > >> > can > >> > >> > > >> continue further discussions on the JIRA > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Guozhang Wang < > >> > wangg...@gmail.com> > >> > >> > > wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > Cody: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > More specifically, you do not need the "listTopics" > function > >> if > >> > >> you > >> > >> > > >> already > >> > >> > > >> > know your subscribed topics, just use "partitionsFor" is > >> > >> sufficient. > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > About the fix, I'm thinking of adding two more options in > the > >> > >> > > >> > auto.offset.rest, say namely "earliest-on-start" and > >> > >> > > "latest-on-start", > >> > >> > > >> > which sets the reset position ONLY at starting up. The > reason > >> > is > >> > >> > that > >> > >> > > >> the > >> > >> > > >> > seekToXX was actually not designed to do such > initialization > >> > but > >> > >> for > >> > >> > > >> > calling during the lifetime of the consumer, and we'd > better > >> > >> provide > >> > >> > > the > >> > >> > > >> > right solution to do so. > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > I can file the JIRA right away and start further > discussions > >> > >> there. > >> > >> > > But > >> > >> > > >> let > >> > >> > > >> > me know if you have any other ideas. > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Guozhang > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Cody Koeninger < > >> > >> c...@koeninger.org > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> Yeah, I think I understood what you were saying. What > I'm > >> > saying > >> > >> > is > >> > >> > > >> >> that if there were a way to just fetch metadata without > >> doing > >> > the > >> > >> > > rest > >> > >> > > >> >> of the work poll() does, it wouldn't be necessary. I > guess > >> I > >> > can > >> > >> > do > >> > >> > > >> >> listTopics to get all metadata for all topics and then > parse > >> > it. > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> Regarding running a single instance, that is the case for > >> what > >> > >> I'm > >> > >> > > >> >> talking about. > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Guozhang Wang < > >> > >> wangg...@gmail.com> > >> > >> > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> > Cody, > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > What I meant for a special case of `seekToXX` is that, > >> today > >> > >> when > >> > >> > > the > >> > >> > > >> >> > function is called with no partition parameters. It > will > >> > try to > >> > >> > > >> execute > >> > >> > > >> >> the > >> > >> > > >> >> > logic on all "assigned" partitions for the consumer. > And > >> > once > >> > >> > that > >> > >> > > is > >> > >> > > >> >> done, > >> > >> > > >> >> > the subsequent poll() will not throw the exception > since > >> it > >> > >> knows > >> > >> > > >> those > >> > >> > > >> >> > partitions needs to reset offsets. > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > However for your case, there is no assigned partitions > >> yet, > >> > and > >> > >> > > hence > >> > >> > > >> >> > `seekToXX` will not take effects on any partitions. The > >> > >> > assignment > >> > >> > > is > >> > >> > > >> >> > wrapped in the poll() call as you mentioned. And one > way > >> to > >> > >> solve > >> > >> > > it > >> > >> > > >> is > >> > >> > > >> >> to > >> > >> > > >> >> > let the `seekToXX()` with no parameters do the > >> coordination > >> > and > >> > >> > get > >> > >> > > >> the > >> > >> > > >> >> > assigned partitions if there are any subscribed > topics, so > >> > that > >> > >> > the > >> > >> > > >> >> > subsequent poll() will know those partitions need > >> resetting > >> > >> > > offsets. > >> > >> > > >> Does > >> > >> > > >> >> > that make sense? > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > As for now another way I can think of is to get the > >> > partition > >> > >> > info > >> > >> > > >> >> > beforehand and call `seekToBeginning` on all > partitions. > >> But > >> > >> that > >> > >> > > >> only > >> > >> > > >> >> > works if the consumer knows it is going to get all the > >> > >> partitions > >> > >> > > >> >> assigned > >> > >> > > >> >> > to itself (i.e. you are only running a single > instance). > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > Guozhang > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 6:22 AM, Cody Koeninger < > >> > >> > c...@koeninger.org > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> >> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> Another unfortunate thing about > ConsumerRebalanceListener > >> > is > >> > >> > that > >> > >> > > in > >> > >> > > >> >> >> order to do meaningful work in the callback, you need > a > >> > >> > reference > >> > >> > > to > >> > >> > > >> >> >> the consumer that called it. But that reference isn't > >> > >> provided > >> > >> > to > >> > >> > > >> the > >> > >> > > >> >> >> callback, which means the listener implementation > needs > >> to > >> > >> hold > >> > >> > a > >> > >> > > >> >> >> reference to the consumer. Seems like this makes it > >> > >> > unnecessarily > >> > >> > > >> >> >> awkward to serialize or provide a 0 arg constructor > for > >> the > >> > >> > > >> listener. > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Cody Koeninger < > >> > >> > > c...@koeninger.org> > >> > >> > > >> >> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > I thought about ConsumerRebalanceListener, but > seeking > >> to > >> > >> the > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > beginning any time there's a rebalance for whatever > >> > reason > >> > >> is > >> > >> > > not > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > necessarily the same thing as seeking to the > beginning > >> > >> before > >> > >> > > >> first > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > starting the consumer. > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Kamal C < > >> > >> > kamaltar...@gmail.com> > >> > >> > > >> >> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> Cody, > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> Use ConsumerRebalanceListener to achieve that, > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> ConsumerRebalanceListener listener = new > >> > >> > > >> ConsumerRebalanceListener() > >> > >> > > >> >> { > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> @Override > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> public void > >> > >> > > >> >> onPartitionsRevoked(Collection<TopicPartition> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> partitions) { > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> } > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> @Override > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> public void > >> > >> > > >> >> onPartitionsAssigned(Collection<TopicPartition> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> partitions) { > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > consumer.seekToBeginning(partitions.toArray(new > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> TopicPartition[0])); > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> } > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> }; > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> consumer.subscribe(topics, listener); > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Cody Koeninger < > >> > >> > > >> c...@koeninger.org> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> That suggestion doesn't work, for pretty much the > >> same > >> > >> > reason > >> > >> > > - > >> > >> > > >> at > >> > >> > > >> >> the > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> time poll is first called, there is no reset > policy > >> > and no > >> > >> > > >> committed > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> offset, so NoOffsetForPartitionException is thrown > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> I feel like the underlying problem isn't so much > that > >> > >> > > seekToEnd > >> > >> > > >> >> needs > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> special case behavior. It's more that topic > >> metadata > >> > >> > > fetches, > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> consumer position fetches, and message fetches are > >> all > >> > >> > lumped > >> > >> > > >> >> together > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> under a single poll() call, with no way to do them > >> > >> > > individually > >> > >> > > >> if > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> necessary. > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> What does "work" in this situation is to just > catch > >> the > >> > >> > > >> exception > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> (which leaves the consumer in a state where topics > >> are > >> > >> > > >> assigned) and > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> then seek. But that is not exactly an elegant > >> > interface. > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> consumer.subscribe(topics) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> try { > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> consumer.poll(0) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> } catch { > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> case x: Throwable => > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> } > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> consumer.seekToBeginning() > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> consumer.poll(0) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Guozhang Wang < > >> > >> > > >> wangg...@gmail.com> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > Hi Cody, > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > The problem with that code is in > >> `seekToBeginning()` > >> > >> > > followed > >> > >> > > >> by > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > `subscribe(topic)`. > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > Since `subscribe` call is lazy evaluated, by the > >> time > >> > >> > > >> >> >> `seekToBeginning()` > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > is called no partition is assigned yet, and > hence > >> it > >> > is > >> > >> > > >> >> effectively > >> > >> > > >> >> >> an > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > no-op. > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > Try > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > consumer.subscribe(topics) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > consumer.poll(0); // get assigned > partitions > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > consumer.seekToBeginning() > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > consumer.poll(0) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > to see if that works. > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > I think it is a valid issue that can be fixed in > >> the > >> > new > >> > >> > > >> consumer > >> > >> > > >> >> >> that, > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > upon calling seekToEnd/Beginning with no > parameter, > >> > >> while > >> > >> > no > >> > >> > > >> >> >> assigned is > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > done yet, do the coordination behind the scene; > it > >> > will > >> > >> > > though > >> > >> > > >> >> >> change the > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > behavior of the functions as they are no longer > >> > always > >> > >> > > lazily > >> > >> > > >> >> >> evaluated. > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > Guozhang > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Cody Koeninger < > >> > >> > > >> >> c...@koeninger.org> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> Using the 0.9 consumer, I would like to start > >> > consuming > >> > >> > at > >> > >> > > >> the > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> beginning or end, without specifying > >> > auto.offset.reset. > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> This does not seem to be possible: > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> val kafkaParams = Map[String, Object]( > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> "bootstrap.servers" -> > >> > >> > > conf.getString("kafka.brokers"), > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> "key.deserializer" -> > >> > >> classOf[StringDeserializer], > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> "value.deserializer" -> > >> > >> > classOf[StringDeserializer], > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> "group.id" -> "example", > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> "auto.offset.reset" -> "none" > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> ).asJava > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> val topics = > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > conf.getString("kafka.topics").split(",").toList.asJava > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> val consumer = new KafkaConsumer[String, > >> > >> > > >> String](kafkaParams) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> consumer.subscribe(topics) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> consumer.seekToBeginning() > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> consumer.poll(0) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> Results in: > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> Exception in thread "main" > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> org.apache.kafka.clients.consumer.NoOffsetForPartitionException: > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> Undefined offset with no reset policy for > >> partition: > >> > >> > > >> testtwo-4 > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> at > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > org.apache.kafka.clients.consumer.internals.Fetcher.resetOffset(Fetcher.java:288) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> at > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > org.apache.kafka.clients.consumer.internals.Fetcher.updateFetchPositions(Fetcher.java:167) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> at > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > org.apache.kafka.clients.consumer.KafkaConsumer.updateFetchPositions(KafkaConsumer.java:1302) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> at > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > org.apache.kafka.clients.consumer.KafkaConsumer.pollOnce(KafkaConsumer.java:895) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> at > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > org.apache.kafka.clients.consumer.KafkaConsumer.poll(KafkaConsumer.java:853) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> at > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > example.BasicKafkaConsumer$.main(BasicKafkaConsumer.scala:25) > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> I'm assuming this is because, at the time > >> > 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