Hi Alex,

Excellent information, thanks! I very much appreciate your time.  BTW,
Kafka is an EXCELLENT product.

It seems like my situation may be a bit of an edge case, based upon your
response. Specifically, when I added more producers (in the case of Storm,
a Kafka producer is a KafkaBolt), that is when the QueueFullExceptions were
thrown. In one instance, I went from 30 KafkaBolts (producers) to 60, and,
after about 45 minutes or so, I started seeing QueueFullExceptions.  This
is why I am wondering if these exceptions can also be a symptom of back
pressure from Kafka.

Is this plausible?

--John



I have tuned the producers

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Alex Loddengaard <a...@confluent.io> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I should preface this by saying I've never used Storm and KafkaBolt and am
> not a streaming expert.
>
> However, if you're running out of buffer in the producer (as is what's
> happening in the other thread you referenced), you can possibly alleviate
> this by adding more producers, or by tuning the producers. Tuning the
> brokers or adding more brokers may help as well, but it's hard to say for
> sure without looking at your monitors and knowing more about the use case
> and cluster.
>
> I suggest setting up monitoring and looking deeply at the JMX metrics that
> are created to understand where each message spends most of its time
> (producer, broker, consumer to start, then request queues, io threads,
> etc). The docs go through each JMX metric relevant here. Then from there
> you can start understanding how to alleviate the problem.
>
> Feel free to share metrics and more information and we can explore them
> together.
>
> Alex
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 5:18 AM, John Yost <hokiege...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I am encountering this exception similar to Saurabh's report earlier
> today
> > as I try to scale up a Storm -> Kafka output via the KafkaBolt (i.e., add
> > more KafkaBolt executors).
> >
> > Question...does this necessarily indicate back pressure from Kafka where
> > the Kafka writes cannot keep up with the incoming messages sent over by
> > Storm? If so, do I add brokers to the cluster, do I add more topics, a
> > combo thereof or something else?
> >
> > As always, any thoughts from people who know more than I do are
> > appreciated. :)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --John
> >
>
>
>
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