Bummer. Yes, but it will be several days. I'll post back to the forum with a URL once I'm done.
Jason On 5/23/13 10:11 AM, "Jun Rao" <jun...@gmail.com> wrote: >Jason, > >Unfortunately, Apache mailing lists don't support attachments. Could you >document your experience (with the graphs) in a blog (or a wiki page in >Kafka)? > >Thanks, > >Jun > > >On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Jason Weiss <jason_we...@rapid7.com> >wrote: > >> Jun, >> >> Here is a screenshot from AWS's statistics (per-minute sampling is the >> finest granularity I believe that they chart). I don't have a >>screenshot of >> the top output. >> >> This shows when I added a 4th machine to the cluster with the same >>number >> of clients, my CPU utilization fell- but remained constant. The >>flatline is >> pretty obvious in the extended 4 minute test-- it ramps up, flat lines, >> then ramps down. >> >> Jason >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Jun Rao [jun...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 00:17 >> To: users@kafka.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Apache Kafka in AWS >> >> Jason, >> >> Thanks for sharing. This is very interesting. Normally, Kafka brokers >>don't >> use too much CPU. Are most of the 750% CPU actually used by Kafka >>brokers? >> >> Jun >> >> >> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Jason Weiss <jason_we...@rapid7.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >>Did you check that you were using all cores? >> > >> > top was reporting over 750% >> > >> > Jason >> > >> > ________________________________________ >> > From: Ken Krugler [kkrugler_li...@transpac.com] >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 20:59 >> > To: users@kafka.apache.org >> > Subject: Re: Apache Kafka in AWS >> > >> > Hi Jason, >> > >> > On May 22, 2013, at 3:35pm, Jason Weiss wrote: >> > >> > > Ken, >> > > >> > > Great question! I should have indicated I was using EBS, 500GB with >> 2000 >> > provisioned IOPs. >> > >> > OK, thanks. Sounds like you were pegged on CPU usage. >> > >> > But that does surprise me a bit. Did you check that you were using all >> > cores? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > -- Ken >> > >> > PS - back in 2006 I spent a week of hell debugging an occasion job >> failure >> > on Hadoop (this is when it was still part of Nutch). Turns out one of >>our >> > 12 slaves was accidentally using OpenJDK, and this had a JIT compiler >>bug >> > that would occasionally rear its ugly head. Obviously the Sun/Oracle >>JRE >> > isn't bug-free, but it gets a lot more stress testing. So one of my >>basic >> > guidelines in the ops portion of the Hadoop class I teach is that >>every >> > server must have exactly the same version of Oracle's JRE. >> > >> > > ________________________________________ >> > > From: Ken Krugler [kkrugler_li...@transpac.com] >> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 17:23 >> > > To: users@kafka.apache.org >> > > Subject: Re: Apache Kafka in AWS >> > > >> > > Hi Jason, >> > > >> > > Thanks for the notes. >> > > >> > > I'm curious whether you went with using local drives (ephemeral >> storage) >> > or EBS, and if with EBS then what IOPS. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > >> > > -- Ken >> > > >> > > On May 22, 2013, at 1:42pm, Jason Weiss wrote: >> > > >> > >> All, >> > >> >> > >> I asked a number of questions of the group over the last week, and >>I'm >> > happy to report that I've had great success getting Kafka up and >>running >> in >> > AWS. I am using 3 EC2 instances, each of which is a M2 High-Memory >> > Quadruple Extra Large with 8 cores and 58.4 GiB of memory according to >> the >> > AWS specs. I have co-located Zookeeper instances next to Zafka on each >> > machine. >> > >> >> > >> I am able to publish in a repeatable fashion 273,000 events per >> second, >> > with each event payload consisting of a fixed size of 2048 bytes! This >> > represents the maximum throughput possible on this configuration, as >>the >> > servers became CPU constrained, averaging 97% utilization in a >>relatively >> > flat line. This isn't a "burst" speed it represents a sustained >> > throughput from 20 M1 Large EC2 Kafka multi-threaded producers. >>Putting >> > this into perspective, if my log retention period was a month, I'd be >> > aggregating 1.3 petabytes of data on my disk drives. Suffice to say, I >> > don't see us retaining data for more than a few hours! >> > >> >> > >> Here were the keys to tuning for future folks to consider: >> > >> >> > >> First and foremost, be sure to configure your Java heap size >> > accordingly when you launch Kafka. The default is like 512MB, which >>in my >> > case left virtually all of my RAM inaccessible to Kafka. >> > >> Second, stay away from OpenJDK. No, seriously this was a huge >>thorn >> > in my side, and I almost gave up on Kafka because of the problems I >> > encountered. The OpenJDK NIO functions repeatedly resulted in Kafka >> > crashing and burning in dramatic fashion. The moment I switched over >>to >> > Oracle's JDK for linux, Kafka didn't puke once- I mean, like not even >>a >> > hiccup. >> > >> Third know your message size. In my opinion, the more you >>understand >> > about your event payload characteristics, the better you can tune the >> > system. The two knobs to really turn are the log.flush.interval and >> > log.default.flush.interval.ms. The values here are intrinsically >> > connected to the types of payloads you are putting through the system. >> > >> Fourth and finally, to maximize throughput you have to code against >> the >> > async paradigm, and be prepared to tweak the batch size, queue >> properties, >> > and compression codec (wait for itŠ) in a way that matches the message >> > payload you are putting through the system and the capabilities of the >> > producer system itself. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Jason >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> This electronic message contains information which may be >>confidential >> > or privileged. The information is intended for the use of the >>individual >> or >> > entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware >>that >> > any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this >> > information is prohibited. 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