OK, thanks. Note that this same client works OK when it connects to Apache 2.4.6/OpenSSL/1.0.1e running on Linux. The HTTP 400 uri mismatch only happens when it connects to Apache 2.4.4/OpenSSL/1.0.1e on Windows. What would explain the difference?
Todd On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Yehuda Katz <yeh...@ymkatz.net> wrote: > It looks like a problem with the implementation or configuration in the > client. > The actual source of your 400 error is this: > [auth_digest:error] [pid 3880:tid 1132] [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] > AH01786: uri mismatch - </webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6> does not > match request-uri </webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6/> > > This is because your Authorization header has - as the error message > clearly states - a mismatch. > > On your working connection: > Authorization: [...] uri="/webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6/", [...] > > On your broken connection: > Authorization: [...] uri="/webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6", [...] > > Note the missing trailing slash in your authorization header. > I suspect if you figure out why you are getting that, everything will > start working. > > - Y > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Todd Blum <t...@toddblum.org> wrote: > >> OK, here is the MKCOL of a working client: >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.258261 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 48 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): MKCOL /webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6/ >> HTTP/1.1\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 40 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): User-Agent: cadaver/0.23.3 neon/0.30.1\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 16 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): Connection: TE\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 14 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): TE: trailers\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 35 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): Host: server.hostname.com\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 294 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): Authorization: Digest username="username", >> realm="DAV-upload", nonce="+IgWxjBWBQA=2843abd2bf8 >> b6c81d9bb74b327a39443ed91d830", uri="/webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6/", >> response="9c0d5a0f57c74963d357f235c50305a5", algorithm="MD5", >> cnonce="97fe93201c8279fa490d1338d455d466", nc=00000003, qop="auth"\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 2 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.329225 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): \r\n >> >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.331226 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(164): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.331226 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (data-HEAP): 197 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.331226 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (data-HEAP): HTTP/1.1 405 Method Not Allowed\r\nDate: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 >> 21:47:04 GMT\r\nServer: Apache/2.4.4 (Win64) OpenSSL/1.0.1e\r\nAllow: >> TRACE\r\nContent-Length: 253\r\nContent-Type: text/html; >> charset=iso-8859-1\r\n\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.331226 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(164): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.331226 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (data-HEAP): 253 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.331226 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (data-HEAP): <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML >> 2.0//EN">\n<html><head>\n<title>405 Method Not >> Allowed</title>\n</head><body>\n<h1>Method Not Allowed</h1>\n<p>The >> requested method MKCOL is not allowed for the URL >> /webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6/.</p>\n</body></html>\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.331226 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (metadata-EOS): 0 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.331226 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(164): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> [Mon Aug 07 14:47:04.331226 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3104:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:45537] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (metadata-EOR): 0 bytes >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> and here is the non-working MKCOL: >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [speculative-nonblocking] 1 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 1 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): M >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 48 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): MKCOL /webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6/ >> HTTP/1.1\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 13 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): Accept: */*\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 32 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 65 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; Clever Internet >> Suite 6.2)\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 24 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): Connection: Keep-Alive\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 293 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): Authorization: Digest username="username", >> realm="DAV-upload", qop="auth", algorithm="MD5", >> uri="/webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6", >> nonce="1sn6zjBWBQA=124cb4760097cff44f4c97d8c9945a5a920a8c05", >> nc=00000001, cnonce="ab08070e302202030f6049540f604955", >> response="64efa6e2ced2ae1ab4d9e5f64a60fcf8"\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 35 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): Host: server.hostname.com\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(135): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> [getline-blocking] 0 readbytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): 2 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_in >> (data-TRANSIENT): \r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [auth_digest:error] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] AH01786: uri mismatch - >> </webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6> does not match request-uri >> </webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6/> >> >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(164): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (data-HEAP): 195 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (data-HEAP): HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request\r\nDate: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 21:48:34 >> GMT\r\nServer: Apache/2.4.4 (Win64) OpenSSL/1.0.1e\r\nContent-Length: >> 226\r\nConnection: close\r\nContent-Type: text/html; >> charset=iso-8859-1\r\n\r\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(164): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (data-HEAP): 226 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.517391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(100): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (data-HEAP): <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML >> 2.0//EN">\n<html><head>\n<title>400 Bad >> Request</title>\n</head><body>\n<h1>Bad >> Request</h1>\n<p>Your browser sent a request that this server could not >> understand.<br />\n</p>\n</body></html>\n >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.518391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (metadata-EOS): 0 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.518391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(164): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.518391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (metadata-EOR): 0 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.518391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(164): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.518391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (metadata-FLUSH): 0 bytes >> [Mon Aug 07 14:48:34.518391 2017] [dumpio:trace7] [pid 3880:tid 1132] >> mod_dumpio.c(58): [client yyy.yyy.yyy.yy:61411] mod_dumpio: dumpio_out >> (metadata-EOC): 0 bytes >> ____________________________________________________________ >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> Todd >> >> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Yehuda Katz <yeh...@ymkatz.net> wrote: >> >>> Try mod_dumpio or a packet capture to see what else is different about >>> the request. >>> >>> - Y >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Todd Blum <t...@toddblum.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I have Apache mod_dav running on Windows 2012. >>>> >>>> When a webDAV enabled application connects and tries to MKCOL on a >>>> directory that already exists, it receives an HTTP 400: >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> ________________ >>>> >>>> yyy.yyy.yyy.yy - username [07/Aug/2017:11:00:03 -0700] "MKCOL >>>> /webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6/ HTTP/1.1" 400 226 >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> ________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> However, all other clients are receiving an HTTP 405 when they issue a >>>> MKCOL for a directory that already exists: >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> ________________ >>>> >>>> xxx.xxx.xxx.xx - username [07/Aug/2017:12:32:16 -0700] "MKCOL >>>> /webdav/dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6/ HTTP/1.1" 405 253 >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> ________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> The application is dependent on receiving a 405 in this scenario, has >>>> anyone else had this situation before? >>>> >>>> >>>> Todd >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
