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> From: Bob Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.7/ssl_faq.html#remove-passphrase
> 
> Thank you Dan.  I guess it isn't such a good idea to do this, 
> eh?  

To add a point to the discussion: You have to ask yourself what the passphrase 
is actually for: it is not to secure the *server*, rather it is to secure the 
*certificate*...

Imagine someone copies your certificate file onto a floppy and sneaks it out 
the door. Then they masquerade your site and try to load your certificate into 
the server. With no passphrase, the fake site is indistinguishable from the 
real one. But with a passphrase, the hacker can't get the server to start so 
cannot masquerade your site.

Personally, I don't believe a passphrase is necessary: If you run an SSL 
server, then that implies you are handling confidential information. You 
therefore have a moral obligation to keep the system secure. If your system is 
so insecure that you are worried about people stealing your certificate, then 
you shouldn't be running an SSL server. In any case, the certificate 
(specifically, the .key file), should be in a separate directory which is owned 
by root and which can be accessed only by root, ie:

drwx------   2 root     other   512 May 14  2001 ssl_key_dir 

(NB - the certificate is loaded into apache during the start-up when the user 
is still root, before the apache user inherits the daemons).

Rgds,
Owen Boyle
Disclaimer: Any disclaimer attached to this message may be ignored. 

> It's 
> just that I've got an awful memory, occasional power outages, and a 
> e-commerce program that relies on the secure server running to work.
> 
> Bob
> 
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