>  The logo immediately made me think about the Hippie Movement, free
thinking, a fresh look at the world, and no boundaries
Nice thoughts - I've always had a similar impression with the current logo,
though I always felt like it reminded me of a lightweight graffiti which
similarly implies free thinking, self-expression and boundary removal. IF
the Groovy Community opted to change logo, it would be nice if a new logo
leaned harder into those roots and that type of imagery.



On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 12:36 PM Paul <pb...@s218777419.onlinehome.us>
wrote:

> *Hello Groovy Community*,
> At the time I discovered Groovy many years ago I remember that the old
> logo captured my attention emotionally because, to me, it reflected a new
> way of thinking about what an improved Java platform language might be.
>
>
> The logo immediately made me think about the Hippie Movement, free
> thinking, a fresh look at the world, and no boundaries.
> The graphical style of the logo, to me, inherently brought those phrases
> to mind and I thought that it was "cool" and definitely worth a deep-dive
> investigation.
> After I explored the language further I remember being repeatedly amazed
> at the innovation I was seeing in the language.
> What I found just reinforced the phrases "free thinking", "a fresh look"
> and "no boundaries" that the old logo had initially impressed upon me.
> So, for these reasons, I too still like the older Groovy Logo;  I have no
> problems with it; It is still "cool" to me.
>
> I'm not a graphic artist so I don't look at a logo as an exercise in
> meeting rules related to jaggedness, line thickness, and other such
> criteria.
> In this case I look for a visual representation of the emotional appeal of
> the language.
> Nevertheless, there may be a need for a smaller icon-sized logo; I will
> leave that for the community to decide on the need for such an alternative
> in limited contexts.
>
> If a discussion regarding a new logo is in worthy of our time at this
> point then may I suggest that we take a step back and define some
> requirements for what a new logo should convey.
> Then we would at least have some scoring (testing) criteria for any new
> logo proposals to be considered by the community.
> Sorry, this is just my systems/software engineering background again
> showing itself.
>
> Just some thoughts...
>
>
> On 2/28/2025 12:46 AM, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>
> Hi MW
>
> On one hand, I really like the old Groovy logo for screaming "Groovy!",
> but I can also see why the old logo might be a hindering for new adapters.
>
> I think it is worth having a discussion, and your suggestion is a good
> step on the way. I can see, that you have put thoughts into this.
>
> My biggest gripe about your current proposal is the choice of colors, as I
> am really fond of the blue color in the current Groovy logo.
>
>
>
> Den fre. 28. feb. 2025 kl. 01.55 skrev midnaw <mid...@kakao.com>:
>
>>
>> Hello! I'm new to mailing lists in general, so please tell me if I'm putting 
>> this in the wrong place
>> or otherwise misusing the list.
>>
>>
>> I've designed and would like to propose an alternate logo for Groovy. It's a 
>> very nice programming
>>
>> language that satisfies all of my gripes with Java, but the logo gave me a 
>> bit of pause when deciding
>>
>> whether or not to learn it. Having spent some time with the language, the 
>> current logo is charming,
>>
>> and definitely screams 'groovy!' but I don't feel it translates well into an 
>> icon (for things like
>>
>> IDEs) and I feel it's also a bit jagged (the lines feel a bit too thick, for 
>> example.)
>>
>>
>> I've attached a PDF with my design. I can tweak it if you'd like, and I 
>> really don't mind criticism
>>
>> (so long as it is constructive.) I like designing things, but I am by no 
>> means a professional designer.
>>
>>
>> If the attachment isn't present, I've also uploaded it to Codeberg, where it 
>> is accessible here:
>>
>>
>> https://codeberg.org/midna/bin/src/branch/main/GroovyLogo.pdf
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what terms would be necessary for this to become the new 
>> project logo, but if anyone does,
>>
>> please let me know. I also don't expect this to replace the project logo, 
>> since people tend to grow
>> attached to them and I myself have been frustrated at redesigns like this.
>>
>> -MW
>> mid...@kakao.com
>>
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