On 24.06.2016 18:12, Mr Andersson wrote:
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static Groovy is on par most of the time, dynamic Groovy depends, but
I think it is more in the range of being 2.5 times java (100ms runtime
becomes 250ms). I think that is close enough.... and there is still
some potential

But a Java fork would be almost 1:1, if all it generated was Java like
code.

Java like code means to do what Java does. Basically you want a language that includes Java and does things different only in parts, which are not in Java... That means loosing ==, that means loosing our array access logic, that means loosing double dispatch of course.. doing builders will become difficult... unless you want to do them like Kotlin. Runtime meta programming basically impossible

I think the performance issues is the invokeDynamic calls that
groovy does internally, and they might not necessarily be needed.

there not that many of those, really.

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However, any editor could in principle, and in theory tell you on any
call, what exceptions can be thrown and what kind of exceptions you
could choose to handle. Ofcourse that would result in many exceptions
often but the need to declare them on each method is largely syntatical
and ugly.

think of a public method and an unknown subclass overriding that method. How can your editor know, that your library method can only throw the exceptions you use in your code and no other? It cannot, unless you make the method final, or say you don´t do libraries ;)

bye Jochen

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