On 06/22/2016 01:12 PM, Jochen Theodorou wrote:
On 22.06.2016 09:59, Thibault Kruse wrote:
I don't think the dynamic nature of Groovy is in general regarded as
the weakest point of Groovy right now. However, I believe a fully
static Groovy may still be preferrable than the dynamic Groovy, mostly
from the point of view of maintaining and extending Groovy in the
future, without financial sponsoring.
I actually don't get that... financial sponsoring is related to bug
fixing and new features. How is it related to static typing vs.
dynamic typing. Yes, there are bugs, but the static side has surely
more generics bugs, than the dynamic side. Implementation wise you
move from the runtime to the compiler, but the complexity is imho
higher in the compiler, because the abstraction level higher and at
the same time the detail work is more. So this would for me actually
speak against the static one if I came from that direction.
If you did actually did mean support... there are several companies
that are happy to give Groovy support if you pay them.
I would also be wary of shipping more variants of Groovy, the question
to me is whether Groovy should just drop runtime dynamics. It would
kind of stop being Groovy, but it might still be great.
what we wanted to do is a library you can use instead of the groovy
jar, if you do only static compilation. Ideally you would have the
static base library and the dynamic part on top. But this is a lot of
work with not enough work force right now. And it is not clear if that
can even be done.
Jochen, but if do try to enable a static groovy flag, similar to the one
used in the config file, does that mean that all of groovy, even it's
own internals has to be static?
I am not saying that, only that my uncompiled code has to be static. As
if it has the annotation on.
A global flag might be problematic for relying on external libraries,
but if they are already compiled then that should not be an issue.
But if it is, Cedrics idea of another file ending, such as .sgroovy or
.groovys ... could provide an easy add for adding @CompileStatic to all
those classes. It should be fairly easy and I can live with that.
Intellij will eventually support that kind of filetype and understand it
is @CompileStatic. Otherwise, a plugin for that should be fairly easy to
write.
bye Jochen
