Hallo Harald,

yes- A document template would be nice. 
 
I will need a time. At the moment I am still on vacation and read the list on 
the side. 
Thanks in advance for your support!

Kind regards
Susanne

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Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Oktober 2022 09:54
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [libreoffice-users] Position references

Hello Susanne and Regina,

if you like I can put it in the wiki (incl. rework).

Susanne I would then send you a document template for the wiki text that I 
always use.

I have not read the topic very intensively now, but it is very interesting in 
any case.

Kind regards
Harald

Am 25.10.2022 um 08:10 schrieb Susanne LO:
> Hallo Regina,
>
> Did you sent John such a document?
> I will create a document for our german users with examples for the lot of 
> positions. And explain it.
> Where can i publish ist for the community?
>
> And: in LO 7.4.1 the is no reference to page in the context menu, only wehen 
> i use properties.
>
> Greetings
> Susanne
>
> —————————————————
> Susanne Mohn
>
>> Am 15.10.2022 um 21:57 schrieb Regina Henschel <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> John Kaufmann schrieb am 15.10.2022 um 19:45:
>>
>>> Anchoring an entity (frame, box, image, ...) is done with respect to 
>>> position references:
>>> *Horizontal*:
>>>      Paragraph area
>>>      Paragraph text area
>>>      Left paragraph border
>>>      Right paragraph border
>>>      Left page border
>>>      Right page border
>>>      Entire page
>>>      Page text area
>> Please use a current daily build. The wording has changed.
>>
>> "Entire page" = "Left of page text area" + "Page text area" + "Right 
>> of page text area".
>>
>> "Entire paragraph area" = "Left of paragraph text area" + "Paragraph 
>> text area" + "Right of paragraph text area".
>>
>> The "Left of page text area" is the sum of "Gutter" (if left) + "left 
>> page margin" + "page border left" + "page padding left" as set in the 
>> page properties dialog.
>>
>> The "Left of paragraph text area" is the sum of "Indent before" + 
>> "paragraph border" + "paragraph padding" as set in the paragraph 
>> properties dialog.
>>
>> Notice, that the column distance is not included in the "Entire 
>> paragraph area".
>>
>> Left, Center and Right use areas as reference.
>> "From left" takes the left edge of the area as reference line.
>>
>> You should insert a small image and test the various positions.
>>
>> In general the preview illustration describes it correctly. But some 
>> bugs exist.
>>
>> When using anchor "to character" you get some additional references.
>> Anchor "as character" has its own set of references. For testing 
>> these anchors use a large font size, a line with different font 
>> sizes, a large line spacing and a small image.
>>
>> I'll sent you a document with some lines to indicate the horizontal 
>> areas. In addition I will sent you an older document which I have 
>> created for the ODF TC. Describing the reference areas is still a not 
>> solved task in the ODF TC. A problem in all that descriptions is that 
>> common using of terms like "margin" and "border" does not correspond 
>> to the technical attributes "fo:margin" and "fo:border".
>>
>> It would be really good to get a document with all that reference 
>> areas and lines explained. I do not mean a technical one with ODF 
>> attributes but a document for users about the kind of positioning 
>> possible in LibreOffice.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>>
>>
>>
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